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Re: Stupid facebook

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Yesterday, I wrote:
> Day before yesterday, I wrote:
> > The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 09/20/2015 11:43 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > > > The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > [...]
> > > >> BUT I found a solution by accident -- I moved a lot of apps, including
> > > >> facebook, to the external card last night.  When I turned the phone on
> > > >> this morning there were NO facebook notifications.  SCORE!
> > > >
> > > >    What device and Android version allows you to move the Facebook app to
> > > > the (real) external SD-card? And *exactly* how did you move it? Thanks.
> > > 
> > > Motorola Moto G Gen 2 with Android 5.0.2.  In the info page for each app 
> > > there's an option 'move to sd card' which actually means that, not just 
> > > move it from the 'phone' part of the internal memory to the 'sdcard' 
> > > part.  All In One Toolbox allows you to do it batch-wise, but it just 
> > > switches you to the info page for each app you selected.
> > > 
> > > >    My Huawei Ascend Y300 smart-phone with Android 4.1.1 (Jelly Bean) has
> > > > a 'greyed-out' "Move to SD card" button and Facebook is eating away some
> > > > 120+MB of very precious Internal Storage of my '4GB' (read: 1.1GB to
> > > > 100MB) phone.
> > > 
> > > I don't think you could run stuff from the card with 4.1, and you could 
> > > run SOME stuff with 4.2 -- but it was a bitch to copy stuff from your 
> > > computer to the sdcard.  5.0 improved stuff immensely.
> > 
> >   4.1.1 has 'Move to SD card' capability, *if* the *app* is written to
> > use it.
> > 
> >   I have many apps on my SD card, for example all of the navigation apps
> > (see my response in your other thread) and some tools (App Cache
> > Cleaner, AppMgr III itself, DiskUsage).
> > 
> >   But fsck-ing Facebook is *not* moveable, so I wonder why it *is* for
> > you.
> > 
> >   AFAIK, none of the post 4.X Android versions did anything for moving
> > *apps* to the SD-card (of course they did fix some of the *data* (to
> > SD-card) problems they *introduced* in KitKat (4.4.X)).
> > 
> >   Anyway, if/when I feel like it, I'll 'Uninstall' (read: 'Uninstall
> > updates') Facebook and see if a 'new' 'Install' (read: 'Update') *will*
> > give me a functioning 'Move to SD card' button. You never know! :-(
> 
>   I did this yesterday and it didn't change a thing (other than Facebook
> occupying even *more* precious space in Internal storage).
> 
>   I.e. the 'Move to SD card' button is *still* disabled ('greyed-out').
> 
>   I give up!

  While I was researching the 'web-browser which can be moved to SD
card' issue (see below), I stumbled on the explanation why you (The Real
Bev) could move Facebook to the SD card on your Android 5.0.2 device,
but I can't move it on my Android 4.1.1 device.

  The reason: It's not the same app! Apparently 5.0+ has it's own
Facebook app, which is different from the app for pre-5.0+ systems.

  You can verify this by looking at the version of the Facebook app.
Yours is probably something like 3X.X.X.X.XX (maybe 37.0.0.0.88). While
mine is 46.0.0.26.153. I.e. the app for older systems has a higher
version number than the app for newer systems.

  So, one mystery solved. No solution for me, but the mystery is solved.

  Next point:

  During the same research, I found that there's a thing called
'Facebook Lite'
(<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.facebook.lite>).

  Compared to the regular Facebook app, it's not just 'Lite' but
featherweight: 3.30MB Total! (1.23MB App and 168KB Data). And no, the
decimal point is not in the wrong place and it's really KB, not MB.

  I installed it and it seems to do the basic stuff. It probably can't
do video's (which is probably an advantage instead of a limitation) and
it didn't seem to honor rotate-screen.

  I couldn't install it from the Play Store. The Play Store said "X
This app is incompatible with all of your devices.", which is strange,
because the Play Store page also says "Works on all Android phones".

  Anyway, I downloaded the APK from APKMirror and installed the app from
the APK.

  BTW, the app's name is (only) 'Lite', i.e. when trying to find it in
'Manage apps' (or whatever), it'll be under the 'L', not under the 'F'.

  Bottom line, I can 'Uninstall [updates]' Facebook and disable it and
use Facebook Lite instead. That way I free some valuable Internal
storage space.

  And now the third point:

>   Alternative: Does anyone know of a web-browser which is 'Move to SD
> card' capable?

  For the moment, I found a solution for this as well:

  Firefox is quite a bit smaller than Chrome, some 48MB versus 145MB,
and the Firefox app *can* be moved to the SD card.

  After moving it, but only using it for a bit, it was Total 47.68MB
(*6.04MB* App + 39.62MB USB storage app + 3.67MB data + 0.00B SD card
(data)).

  So Firefox takes only about 10MB of Internal storage space, compared
to 145MB for Chrome.

  N.B. The data still sits in Internal storage. Apparently this can be
(partly?) moved as well, but for the momentI didn't bother.

  Summary:

  All in all the changes from Facebook to Facebook Lite and from Chrome
to Firefox, give me quite a lot of extra Internal storage space, which I
can use for Stuff That Matters (tm).

  I hope that some of this is of use to some of the audience.

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Stupid facebook The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 10:45 -0700
  Re: Stupid facebook John Doe <always.look@message.header> - 2015-09-02 18:11 +0000
    Re: Stupid facebook chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 15:28 +0100
      Re: Stupid facebook The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 08:54 -0700
        Re: Stupid facebook Robert Marshall <spam@capuchin.co.uk> - 2015-09-04 14:31 +0100
          Re: Stupid facebook RVG <not.here@themoment.invalid.org> - 2015-09-18 05:59 +0200
            Re: Stupid facebook Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 12:02 +0200
              Re: Stupid facebook The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 15:08 -0700
                Re: Stupid facebook chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 17:13 +0100
                Re: Stupid facebook The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 10:18 -0700
                Re: Stupid facebook Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-09-20 18:43 +0000
                Re: Stupid facebook The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 12:08 -0700
                Re: Stupid facebook Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-09-20 19:47 +0000
                Re: Stupid facebook Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-09-22 14:10 +0000
                Re: Stupid facebook Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-09-23 17:35 +0000
                Re: Stupid facebook The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-09-23 13:25 -0700
                Re: Stupid facebook Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-09-24 08:32 +0100
                Re: Stupid facebook The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 08:01 -0700
                Re: Stupid facebook chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 13:44 +0100
                Re: Stupid facebook The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 12:54 -0700
  Re: Stupid facebook The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:13 -0700
    Re: Stupid facebook Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2015-09-04 16:02 +0000
      Re: Stupid facebook The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 21:33 -0700
        Re: Stupid facebook Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2015-09-09 13:19 +0000
  Re: Stupid facebook Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-09-04 19:20 +0000
    Re: Stupid facebook The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 21:31 -0700
      Re: Stupid facebook Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-09-05 17:28 +0000
        Re: Stupid facebook The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 13:15 -0700
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