Re: What determines the fact that some youtube apps/platforms have ads and some don't?

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	alt.windows7.general, comp.mobile.ipad, comp.mobile.android, alt.os.linux
Subject	Re: What determines the fact that some youtube apps/platforms have ads and some don't?
Date	2016-09-09 10:25 -0700
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On 9/9/16, 10:15 AM, in article nquqmp$m6t$1@news.mixmin.net, "Horace
Algier" <horatio@horatio.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 08:25:27 -0400, Mayayana wrote:
> 
>>    I have noticed that some videos can't be downloaded
>> with Download Helper, which raises a vague error along
>> the lines of "it may be protected content". I wonder
>> how that works. It's all protected content insofar as
>> Google/Youtube put a lot of work into obfuscating the
>> file source. But they're all still downloaded files, so I
>> don't understand why DH can't get around some obstacles
>> but can get around others.
> 
> This is off topic, but I'm responding to what you wrote above.
> 
> I don't know how they *protect* that content you speak of from being
> downloaded, but I do know that, so far, in scores of downloads using the
> free youtube-lookalike app from the F-Droid sit, named "New Pipe"
> (org.schabi.newpipe), I haven't seen a single ad nor has a single audio
> file extraction been in the least difficult to download, in its entirety.
> 
> I haven't tried to download any videos (despite nospam's erroneous
> insistence that I have), but I would suspect that the video would be just
> as trivial to download as the audio was to extract.
> 
> If you (or anyone else) can post a youtube link where the content seems to
> be protected, I'll be glad to punch that youtube link into the New Pipe
> freeware youtube-lookalike app, to see if it can download the content as
> easily as it does for the two-hour documentaries I typically extract the
> audio from using that app.
> 
> Here's a link to the NewPipe description:
> https://github.com/theScrabi/NewPipe
> 
> Since I don't even have a Google Play account on my Android device, I got
> mine from the no-registration-needed F-Droid site:
> https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.schabi.newpipe
> 
> Anyone who *buys* the youtube red, is, apparently, a potential customer of
> the free youtube red equivalent, according to this article:
> https://www.maketecheasier.com/open-source-youtube-app-android/
> 
> Apparently New Pipe doesn't use a Youtube API, so maybe that's how it gets
> around the MARKETING restrictions?
> https://newpipe.en.uptodown.com/android
> 
> Luckily, you can get the APK almost anywhere:
> http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/thescrabi/newpipe/newpipe-0-7-5-release/newpipe-0
> -7-5-android-apk-download/
> 
> BTW, as an aside, if similar open-source functionality exists on iOS,
> someone please let us know because it's pretty much exactly what anyone
> would want who wants to download either the video (which I don't do) or the
> audio (which works perfectly). Or, they can shell out $10 bucks to buy the
> free app from Youtube MARKETING. :)
>  
I just use keepvid.com which even provides a simple applet. Have yet to find
a video I want to download which I cannot.

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