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Why Comcast and other cable ISPs aren?t selling you gigabit Internet

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First post2014-08-24 22:08 +0000
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  Why Comcast and other cable ISPs aren?t selling you gigabit Internet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-08-24 22:08 +0000
    Re: Why Comcast and other cable ISPs aren?t selling you gigabit Internet RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-08-25 15:21 +0000
      Re: Why Comcast and other cable ISPs aren?t selling you gigabit Internet Will Honea <whonea@whonea.net> - 2014-08-25 10:54 -0600
        Re: Why Comcast and other cable ISPs aren?t selling you gigabit Internet Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-08-26 17:02 +0100
          Re: Why Comcast and other cable ISPs aren?t selling you gigabit Internet RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-08-28 21:14 +0000
    Re: Why Comcast and other cable ISPs aren?t selling you gigabit Internet "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2014-08-26 07:41 +0200
    Re:Why Comcast and other cable ISPs aren?t selling you gigabit Internet RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-08-28 21:02 +0000
      Re: Why Comcast and other cable ISPs aren?t selling you gigabit Internet scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2014-08-29 19:14 +0000

#4534 — Why Comcast and other cable ISPs aren?t selling you gigabit Internet

FromRich <rich@example.invalid>
Date2014-08-24 22:08 +0000
SubjectWhy Comcast and other cable ISPs aren?t selling you gigabit Internet
Message-ID<IUMa/CaHXh+BFc3clzNrm/go@dont-email.me>
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/why-comcast-and-other-cable-isps-arent-selling-you-gigabit-internet/

   Cable tech could hit a gigabit today, but why bother when customers lack
   choice?

   Gigabit-class broadband is capturing the imagination of Internet users
   throughout the country. With Google and other companies bringing
   fiber-based services that deliver a gigabit of data each second to the
   home, communities are accelerating their push to get the highest speeds.

   ...

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#4538

FromRS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
Date2014-08-25 15:21 +0000
Message-ID<20140825152130.7308256e.rsw@therandymon.com>
In reply to#4534
On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 22:08:09 +0000 (UTC)
Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:

> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/why-comcast-and-other-cable-isps-arent-selling-you-gigabit-internet/
> 
>    Cable tech could hit a gigabit today, but why bother when customers lack
>    choice?
> 
>    Gigabit-class broadband is capturing the imagination of Internet users
>    throughout the country. With Google and other companies bringing
>    fiber-based services that deliver a gigabit of data each second to the
>    home, communities are accelerating their push to get the highest speeds.


"This gigabit internet is fostering unprecedented gains in science and
research, including insights into DNA sequencing, global climate
change, and the race to new and more powerful fuel sources."

Er no, I just made that up; it wasn't in the article.  What is everyone
doing with their new gigabit internet?  Downloading and watching shit
movies.  Yay, humanity.  And the cable companies are tripping over
themselves to recreate the formerly shit experience of network TV over
TCP/IP, including Youtube channels, DRMed content, the commoditization
of hardware and the improvmeent of operating systems that provide
little utility to the consumer other than consuming packaged content.

It's a good thing the WWII generation has largely passed away from old
age.  Were they around to see what the current generation of clods is
doing with the hard-fought gains of that generation, they'd slit their
own throats in anguish and despair.  

"Also, the graphics in computer games is so much awesomerier!  With
extra bonus vectors!"  Pardon me while I reach for my shotgun.

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#4540

FromWill Honea <whonea@whonea.net>
Date2014-08-25 10:54 -0600
Message-ID<vTJKv.56629$oe6.28705@fx29.iad>
In reply to#4538
RS Wood wrote:

> "This gigabit internet is fostering unprecedented gains in science and
> research, including insights into DNA sequencing, global climate
> change, and the race to new and more powerful fuel sources."
> 
> Er no, I just made that up; it wasn't in the article.  What is everyone
> doing with their new gigabit internet?  Downloading and watching shit
> movies.  Yay, humanity.  And the cable companies are tripping over
> themselves to recreate the formerly shit experience of network TV over
> TCP/IP, including Youtube channels, DRMed content, the commoditization
> of hardware and the improvmeent of operating systems that provide
> little utility to the consumer other than consuming packaged content.
> 
> It's a good thing the WWII generation has largely passed away from old
> age.  Were they around to see what the current generation of clods is
> doing with the hard-fought gains of that generation, they'd slit their
> own throats in anguish and despair.
> 
> "Also, the graphics in computer games is so much awesomerier!  With
> extra bonus vectors!"  Pardon me while I reach for my shotgun.
> 

Gratefully, they still haven't managed to remove the most important element 
of technology on most electronic devices: the "OFF" switch.

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#4550

FromJohny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com>
Date2014-08-26 17:02 +0100
Message-ID<caapv9tghk9se67sqfrf96dp8u3g9m1j1u@4ax.com>
In reply to#4540
On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 10:54:51 -0600, Will Honea <whonea@whonea.net>
wrote:

>RS Wood wrote:
>
>> "This gigabit internet is fostering unprecedented gains in science and
>> research, including insights into DNA sequencing, global climate
>> change, and the race to new and more powerful fuel sources."
>> 
>> Er no, I just made that up; it wasn't in the article.  What is everyone
>> doing with their new gigabit internet?  Downloading and watching shit
>> movies.  Yay, humanity.  And the cable companies are tripping over
>> themselves to recreate the formerly shit experience of network TV over
>> TCP/IP, including Youtube channels, DRMed content, the commoditization
>> of hardware and the improvmeent of operating systems that provide
>> little utility to the consumer other than consuming packaged content.
>> 
>> It's a good thing the WWII generation has largely passed away from old
>> age.  Were they around to see what the current generation of clods is
>> doing with the hard-fought gains of that generation, they'd slit their
>> own throats in anguish and despair.
>> 
>> "Also, the graphics in computer games is so much awesomerier!  With
>> extra bonus vectors!"  Pardon me while I reach for my shotgun.
>> 
>
>Gratefully, they still haven't managed to remove the most important element 
>of technology on most electronic devices: the "OFF" switch.

 You're a little late in the day to make that assertion. Most mobile
gadgets don't have an _actual_ Off Switch, just a 'sleep button'. Even
the humble desktop PC can be so cursed by the lack of such an Off
Switch if the PSU isn't blessed with a true mains isolator switch, as
is typically the case with most major OEM PCs.

 This has been the situation ever since the advent of ATX some 15 or
more years ago. Often, the only way to _truly_ switch a desktop PC off
is to either switch off at the wall outlet or, in the case of
unswitched outlets, literally pull the plug on the mainslead (at the
wall or else the IEC connector into the back of said PC).

 All ATX MoBos feature an "Alarm Clock" function which can be
programmed to restart the machine at a scheduled time (either from
within the cmos setup menu or else by software control from within the
OS).  I've seen at least one system automatically reboot itself from a
soft shutdown within about a minute which may or may not have been the
result of malware.

 Most home and office computer users are quite content to leave the
system in soft shutdown where the ATX PSU 5VSB line remains powered
drawing anywhere from 1 to 6 watts from the wall outlet. This leaves
the possibility of clever zombieware scheduling 'out of hours'
exploitation once it's worked out the normal usage pattern so if
you're _really_ paranoid about such possible system behaviour, you'd
be making sure the PC is properly switched off after the soft shutdown
before leaving it to its own devices.
-- 
J B Good

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#4581

FromRS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
Date2014-08-28 21:14 +0000
Message-ID<lto643$qm4$3@solani.org>
In reply to#4550
Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> Wrote in message:

>>Gratefully, they still haven't managed to remove the most important element 
>>of technology on most electronic devices: the "OFF" switch.
> 
>  You're a little late in the day to make that assertion. Most mobile
> gadgets don't have an _actual_ Off Switch, just a 'sleep button'. Even
> the humble desktop PC can be so cursed by the lack of such an Off
> Switch if the PSU isn't blessed with a true mains isolator switch, as
> is typically the case with most major OEM PCs.
> 

Yeah, the only way to turn off my Roku is to unplug it.  The only
 way to really shut down an ipad is to hold its head under water
 in the bath ... :)  Kidding, but yeah.  Remember when putting a
 Linux laptop to sleep was an exercise in sadism?  It was always a
 gamble if your machine would come back to life, freeze halfway,
 wake up retarded, or worse.

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#4549

From"Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl>
Date2014-08-26 07:41 +0200
Message-ID<53fc1e0a$0$2840$e4fe514c@news2.news.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#4534
Op 25/08/14 om 00:08 schreef Rich:
> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/why-comcast-and-other-cable-isps-arent-selling-you-gigabit-internet/
>
>     Cable tech could hit a gigabit today, but why bother when customers lack
>     choice?
>
>     Gigabit-class broadband is capturing the imagination of Internet users
>     throughout the country. With Google and other companies bringing
>     fiber-based services that deliver a gigabit of data each second to the
>     home, communities are accelerating their push to get the highest speeds.
>
>     ...
>
Yeah horrible, my ISP only offers (up to) 500Mb/s.
"https://www.xs4all.nl/internet/#specs-optie1"

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#4577

FromRS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
Date2014-08-28 21:02 +0000
Message-ID<lto5e4$nsm$4@solani.org>
In reply to#4534
Rich <rich@example.invalid> Wrote in message:
> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/why-comcast-and-other-cable-isps-arent-selling-you-gigabit-internet/
> 
>    Cable tech could hit a gigabit today, but why bother when customers lack
>    choice?


It's actually kind of amazing: as much as Americans fawn and drool
 over the magic of the 'open economic market,' we sure are prone
 to predatory oligopolies.  The cable TV providers, major
 telephone and cellphone providers, and increasingly stores and
 restaurants (chains).  We love the discounts that come from
 volume purchasing, and are willing to sacrifice the benefits of
 healthy competition in hopes of providing oligopolistic or
 monopolistic commercial endeavors to buy in bulk. 
 

How's it working out then?  Not so good.  Our cellphone service is
 years behind other countries; our banking is stale; our TV is a
 fucking nightmare of crap.  I could go on, but that's
 enough.

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#4593

Fromscott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter)
Date2014-08-29 19:14 +0000
Message-ID<ltqjea$qph$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#4577
In article <lto5e4$nsm$4@solani.org>, RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>Rich <rich@example.invalid> Wrote in message:
>>
>http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/why-comcast-and-other-cable-isps-arent-selling-you-gigabit-internet/
>> 
>>    Cable tech could hit a gigabit today, but why bother when customers lack
>>    choice?
>
>
>It's actually kind of amazing: as much as Americans fawn and drool
> over the magic of the 'open economic market,' we sure are prone
> to predatory oligopolies.

...which were, for the most part, the result of the government butting in
and trying to pick winners and losers according to who was willing to pay to
play.  It's kinda hard to blame the "free" market for that when, in reality,
it's anything but free.

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