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| Started by | John Brownalt <deconfliction@filteredperception.org> |
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| First post | 2014-02-07 10:45 +0000 |
| Last post | 2014-02-11 09:58 -0500 |
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Slashdot Beta Sucks John Brownalt <deconfliction@filteredperception.org> - 2014-02-07 10:45 +0000
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-07 11:45 -0500
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2014-02-07 18:01 +0000
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-07 19:35 +0000
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 15:02 -0800
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-07 18:18 -0500
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-08 00:12 +0000
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 16:36 -0800
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Kees Nuyt <k.nuyt@nospam.demon.nl> - 2014-02-18 22:56 +0100
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 16:33 -0800
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Lance Orner <lance@orner.invalid.net> - 2014-02-09 03:23 +0000
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks CoolHand <coolhnd28@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 21:29 -0500
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks TrueSatan <true_satan@fastmail.co.uk> - 2014-02-08 02:48 +0000
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks CoolHand <coolhnd28@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 21:54 -0500
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks TrueSatan <true_satan@fastmail.co.uk> - 2014-02-08 04:09 +0000
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 22:39 -0800
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2014-02-08 12:09 +0000
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks brendan.halpin@ul.ie (Brendan Halpin) - 2014-02-19 23:24 +0000
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-07 23:15 -0500
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 22:41 -0800
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-08 20:03 +0000
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-08 15:16 -0500
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-08 15:31 -0800
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks shvelven <shvelven@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 02:30 -0500
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks TrueSatan <true_satan@fastmail.co.uk> - 2014-02-09 10:53 +0000
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks TrueSatan <true_satan@fastmail.co.uk> - 2014-02-09 10:54 +0000
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-09 15:35 +0000
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Vince Mulhollon <vincemulhollon@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 13:32 -0800
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks John Brownalt <deconfliction@filteredperception.org> - 2014-02-12 00:06 +0000
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks vehka <heikki.wilenius@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 17:55 -0800
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-12 08:47 +0847
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-02-26 00:34 -0500
Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-02-25 23:43 -0500
Re: Slashdot Beta -> Technical reasons? "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-11 09:05 +0000
Re: Slashdot Beta -> Technical reasons? John Brownalt <deconfliction@filteredperception.org> - 2014-02-11 12:11 +0000
Re: Slashdot Beta -> Technical reasons? "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-11 13:26 +0000
Re: Slashdot Beta -> Technical reasons? Lance Orner <lance@orner.invalid.net> - 2014-02-12 03:38 +0000
Re: Slashdot Beta -> Technical reasons? Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 09:58 -0500
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| From | John Brownalt <deconfliction@filteredperception.org> |
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| Date | 2014-02-07 10:45 +0000 |
| Subject | Slashdot Beta Sucks |
| Message-ID | <ld2dgr$sq0$1@dont-email.me> |
Welcome Slashdot Beta Exodus (just kidding, but it would be funny). Watch out for that RocketRabbit, while I thank him/her for pointing me at eternal-september.org, I noted on slashdot a somewhat racist comment they made about Richard Stallman. Still, it's nice to be back on usenet. While there will never be a redesign of usenet, I do think there is immense space for custom readers that could potentially compete (even for mere mortals) with facebook, twitter, and slashdot. Long Live USENET!!!
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| From | 2phar <none@example.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-07 11:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ld32j1$nso$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76 |
On 2/7/2014 5:45 AM, John Brownalt wrote: > Welcome Slashdot Beta Exodus (just kidding, but it would be funny). > > Watch out for that RocketRabbit, while I thank him/her for pointing me > at eternal-september.org, I noted on slashdot a somewhat racist comment > they made about Richard Stallman. > > Still, it's nice to be back on usenet. While there will never be a > redesign of usenet, I do think there is immense space for custom readers > that could potentially compete (even for mere mortals) with facebook, twitter, > and slashdot. > > Long Live USENET!!! > Hi.. another refugee here. It would be nice if a Slashdot like moderation could be built on top of usenet.
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| From | "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> |
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| Date | 2014-02-07 18:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <52f51f6b$0$2943$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> |
| In reply to | #79 |
op 07-02-14 16:45 schreef 2phar: > On 2/7/2014 5:45 AM, John Brownalt wrote: >> Welcome Slashdot Beta Exodus (just kidding, but it would be funny). >> >> Watch out for that RocketRabbit, while I thank him/her for pointing me >> at eternal-september.org, I noted on slashdot a somewhat racist comment >> they made about Richard Stallman. >> >> Still, it's nice to be back on usenet. While there will never be a >> redesign of usenet, I do think there is immense space for custom readers >> that could potentially compete (even for mere mortals) with facebook, >> twitter, >> and slashdot. >> >> Long Live USENET!!! >> > > Hi.. another refugee here. It would be nice if a Slashdot like > moderation could be built on top of usenet. It's commonly known as Ploink!
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| From | RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-07 19:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <52f5357c$0$29668$862e30e2@ngroups.net> |
| In reply to | #81 |
On 2014-02-07, Dirk T. Verbeek <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> wrote: > op 07-02-14 16:45 schreef 2phar: >> On 2/7/2014 5:45 AM, John Brownalt wrote: >>> Welcome Slashdot Beta Exodus (just kidding, but it would be funny). >>> >>> Watch out for that RocketRabbit, while I thank him/her for pointing me >>> at eternal-september.org, I noted on slashdot a somewhat racist comment >>> they made about Richard Stallman. >>> >>> Still, it's nice to be back on usenet. While there will never be a >>> redesign of usenet, I do think there is immense space for custom readers >>> that could potentially compete (even for mere mortals) with facebook, >>> twitter, >>> and slashdot. >>> >>> Long Live USENET!!! >>> >> >> Hi.. another refugee here. It would be nice if a Slashdot like >> moderation could be built on top of usenet. > It's commonly known as Ploink! By the way, today I got a pop-up at the top of my screen when visiting slashdot.org that reads "We Hear You! .... something something." I think they just realized their revenue stream is about to pour itself down the fucking toilet. Might be too late, Timothy, you corporate-speak mushymouthed bastard. You don't get any credit for saying "we're listening to you" if you're really not, and most of us around here are smart enough to know when we're getting 'managed.' Is the Slashdot cat out of the bag?
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| From | Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-07 15:02 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ld3olj$f0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #85 |
On 2014-02-07 19:35:24 +0000, RS Wood said: > On 2014-02-07, Dirk T. Verbeek <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> wrote: >> op 07-02-14 16:45 schreef 2phar: >>> On 2/7/2014 5:45 AM, John Brownalt wrote: >>>> Welcome Slashdot Beta Exodus (just kidding, but it would be funny). >>>> >>>> Watch out for that RocketRabbit, while I thank him/her for pointing me >>>> at eternal-september.org, I noted on slashdot a somewhat racist comment >>>> they made about Richard Stallman. >>>> >>>> Still, it's nice to be back on usenet. While there will never be a >>>> redesign of usenet, I do think there is immense space for custom readers >>>> that could potentially compete (even for mere mortals) with facebook, >>>> twitter, >>>> and slashdot. >>>> >>>> Long Live USENET!!! >>>> >>> >>> Hi.. another refugee here. It would be nice if a Slashdot like >>> moderation could be built on top of usenet. >> It's commonly known as Ploink! > > By the way, today I got a pop-up at the top of my screen when visiting > slashdot.org that reads "We Hear You! .... something something." I > think they just realized their revenue stream is about to pour itself > down the fucking toilet. > > Might be too late, Timothy, you corporate-speak mushymouthed bastard. > You don't get any credit for saying "we're listening to you" if you're > really not, and most of us around here are smart enough to know when > we're getting 'managed.' > > Is the Slashdot cat out of the bag? I think that, while they realize that an exodus might take place, they still don't really give a shit. Perhaps the whole idea from the start was to destroy Slashdot - it is possible that the executives behind Dice Holdings made a lot of money on other investments, and need a corporate loss to offset a corporate gain for tax purposes. Remember, Timothy and Rob are just employees now. When Dice calls up and says "post this video advertisement" or "get to work updating SlashBI" they do it. Slashdot is only a community any more through sheer momentum.
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| From | 2phar <none@example.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-07 18:18 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ld3pk6$bfv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #89 |
On 2/7/2014 6:02 PM, Oregonian Haruspex wrote: > On 2014-02-07 19:35:24 +0000, RS Wood said: > >> >> By the way, today I got a pop-up at the top of my screen when visiting >> slashdot.org that reads "We Hear You! .... something something." I >> think they just realized their revenue stream is about to pour itself >> down the fucking toilet. >> >> Might be too late, Timothy, you corporate-speak mushymouthed bastard. >> You don't get any credit for saying "we're listening to you" if you're >> really not, and most of us around here are smart enough to know when >> we're getting 'managed.' >> >> Is the Slashdot cat out of the bag? > > I think that, while they realize that an exodus might take place, they > still don't really give a shit. Perhaps the whole idea from the start > was to destroy Slashdot - it is possible that the executives behind Dice > Holdings made a lot of money on other investments, and need a corporate > loss to offset a corporate gain for tax purposes. > > Remember, Timothy and Rob are just employees now. When Dice calls up > and says "post this video advertisement" or "get to work updating > SlashBI" they do it. > > Slashdot is only a community any more through sheer momentum. > Well, as they said in the financial report for last year (http://www.diceholdingsinc.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=211152&p=irol-newsArticle_print&ID=1896508) "Slashdot Media was acquired to provide content and services that are important to technology professionals in their everyday work lives and to leverage that reach into the global technology community benefiting user engagement on the Dice.com site. The expected benefits have started to be realized at Dice.com. However, advertising revenue has declined over the past year and there is no improvement expected in the future financial performance of Slashdot Media's underlying advertising business. Therefore, $7.2 million of intangible assets and $6.3 million of goodwill related to Slashdot Media were reduced to zero." Can't see they're going put much/any effort into keeping the existing users happy. More likely yhey might end up selling the existing database of users and discussions to facebook or something to be retrospectively mined for marketing.
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| From | RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-08 00:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <52f57685$0$29735$862e30e2@ngroups.net> |
| In reply to | #90 |
On 2014-02-07, 2phar <none@example.com> wrote: > On 2/7/2014 6:02 PM, Oregonian Haruspex wrote: > "Slashdot Media was acquired to provide content and services that are > important to technology professionals in their everyday work lives and > to leverage that reach into the global technology community benefiting > user engagement on the Dice.com site. The expected benefits have > started to be realized at Dice.com. However, advertising revenue has > declined over the past year and there is no improvement expected in the > future financial performance of Slashdot Media's underlying advertising > business. Therefore, $7.2 million of intangible assets and $6.3 million > of goodwill related to Slashdot Media were reduced to zero." > > Can't see they're going put much/any effort into keeping the existing > users happy. More likely yhey might end up selling the existing database > of users and discussions to facebook or something to be retrospectively > mined for marketing. > > So they bought a lemon, are trying to squeeze a few drops out of it, and they have nothing to lose since they're already not making any money. Glad I'm not there to see the train wreck, though I do hope we put together something equal as a community. It really was a great place for commentary and I learned a lot there. Still do.
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| From | Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-07 16:36 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ld3u68$2nc$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94 |
On 2014-02-08 00:12:53 +0000, RS Wood said: > On 2014-02-07, 2phar <none@example.com> wrote: >> On 2/7/2014 6:02 PM, Oregonian Haruspex wrote: >> "Slashdot Media was acquired to provide content and services that are >> important to technology professionals in their everyday work lives and >> to leverage that reach into the global technology community benefiting >> user engagement on the Dice.com site. The expected benefits have >> started to be realized at Dice.com. However, advertising revenue has >> declined over the past year and there is no improvement expected in the >> future financial performance of Slashdot Media's underlying advertising >> business. Therefore, $7.2 million of intangible assets and $6.3 million >> of goodwill related to Slashdot Media were reduced to zero." >> >> Can't see they're going put much/any effort into keeping the existing >> users happy. More likely yhey might end up selling the existing database >> of users and discussions to facebook or something to be retrospectively >> mined for marketing. >> >> > > So they bought a lemon, are trying to squeeze a few drops out of it, and > they have nothing to lose since they're already not making any money. > > Glad I'm not there to see the train wreck, though I do hope we put > together something equal as a community. It really was a great place > for commentary and I learned a lot there. Still do. Usenet has the potential to be much better than any of the web 2.0 type shit that people seem to favor now. Sometimes you don't want promoted links and 'share this' all over everything - just a few good comments and the ability to blow away the assholes. I will miss Slashdot as well. I don't think I will post there any more except to draw attention to Usenet and seeing as how my account has been given the Slashdot Death Penalty I can't forsee many people seeing those comments anyway.
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| From | Kees Nuyt <k.nuyt@nospam.demon.nl> |
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| Date | 2014-02-18 22:56 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <6el7g9h69ph41m9hcjuja5eq29dd7a58kq@dim53.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #98 |
On Fri, 7 Feb 2014 16:36:25 -0800, Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> wrote: > Usenet has the potential to be much better than any of the web 2.0 type > shit that people seem to favor now. +1 > Sometimes you don't want promoted links and 'share this' I _never_ wanted that. It mostly is a waste of screen real estate. I (usenetter since 1995) left Slashdot after a previous redesign. It just took too much effort to handle that user interface. I never left usenet though. > all over everything - just a few > good comments and the ability to blow away the assholes. > > I will miss Slashdot as well. I won't, I'm just happy, because I think usenet is a much better environment for communities. Welcome (back) slashdotters! > I don't think I will post there any more > except to draw attention to Usenet and seeing as how my account has > been given the Slashdot Death Penalty I can't forsee many people seeing > those comments anyway. -- Kees Nuyt
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| From | Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-07 16:33 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ld3u1i$1so$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90 |
On 2014-02-07 23:18:30 +0000, 2phar said: > On 2/7/2014 6:02 PM, Oregonian Haruspex wrote: >> On 2014-02-07 19:35:24 +0000, RS Wood said: >> >>> >>> By the way, today I got a pop-up at the top of my screen when visiting >>> slashdot.org that reads "We Hear You! .... something something." I >>> think they just realized their revenue stream is about to pour itself >>> down the fucking toilet. >>> >>> Might be too late, Timothy, you corporate-speak mushymouthed bastard. >>> You don't get any credit for saying "we're listening to you" if you're >>> really not, and most of us around here are smart enough to know when >>> we're getting 'managed.' >>> >>> Is the Slashdot cat out of the bag? >> >> I think that, while they realize that an exodus might take place, they >> still don't really give a shit. Perhaps the whole idea from the start >> was to destroy Slashdot - it is possible that the executives behind Dice >> Holdings made a lot of money on other investments, and need a corporate >> loss to offset a corporate gain for tax purposes. >> >> Remember, Timothy and Rob are just employees now. When Dice calls up >> and says "post this video advertisement" or "get to work updating >> SlashBI" they do it. >> >> Slashdot is only a community any more through sheer momentum. >> > > Well, as they said in the financial report for last year > (http://www.diceholdingsinc.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=211152&p=irol-newsArticle_print&ID=1896508) > > > "Slashdot Media was acquired to provide content and services that are > important to technology professionals in their everyday work lives and > to leverage that reach into the global technology community benefiting > user engagement on the Dice.com site. The expected benefits have > started to be realized at Dice.com. However, advertising revenue has > declined over the past year and there is no improvement expected in the > future financial performance of Slashdot Media's underlying advertising > business. Therefore, $7.2 million of intangible assets and $6.3 > million of goodwill related to Slashdot Media were reduced to zero." > > Can't see they're going put much/any effort into keeping the existing > users happy. More likely yhey might end up selling the existing > database of users and discussions to facebook or something to be > retrospectively mined for marketing. It seems that they are admitting that they valued Slashdot at $13.5 million at least for tax purposes, but that this value was entirely intangable and or goodwill based. Another way of looking at this is to say that Slashdot didn't have any value to start with, except the users who were free to leave at any time of course. If, as they say, the current value is $0 then there is pretty much no business case (at least to a PHB) for keeping it going. Makes you wonder how much they wasted on SlashBI and Slashcloud and shit like that?
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| From | Lance Orner <lance@orner.invalid.net> |
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| Date | 2014-02-09 03:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <KwCJu.109742$9V.4749@en-nntp-16.dc1.easynews.com> |
| In reply to | #90 |
On 2014-02-07, 2phar <none@example.com> wrote: > "Slashdot Media was acquired to provide content and services that are > important to technology professionals in their everyday work lives and > to leverage that reach into the global technology community benefiting > user engagement on the Dice.com site. The expected benefits have > started to be realized at Dice.com. However, advertising revenue has > declined over the past year and there is no improvement expected in the > future financial performance of Slashdot Media's underlying advertising > business. Therefore, $7.2 million of intangible assets and $6.3 million > of goodwill related to Slashdot Media were reduced to zero." Another person checking in. This is insightful. Yep, they seem to be just riding this until the wheels fall off.
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| From | CoolHand <coolhnd28@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-07 21:29 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ld44r1$u2a$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76 |
I'm here for the Slashdot Exodus... Has everyone else shown up yet?? Do we have Natalie naked & petrified here? ...CoolHnd30 John Brownalt wrote: > Welcome Slashdot Beta Exodus (just kidding, but it would be funny). > > Watch out for that RocketRabbit, while I thank him/her for pointing me > at eternal-september.org, I noted on slashdot a somewhat racist comment > they made about Richard Stallman. > > Still, it's nice to be back on usenet. While there will never be a > redesign of usenet, I do think there is immense space for custom readers > that could potentially compete (even for mere mortals) with facebook, > twitter, and slashdot. > > Long Live USENET!!!
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| From | TrueSatan <true_satan@fastmail.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2014-02-08 02:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ld45u6$4h2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #100 |
Nope, but you do have me...TrueSatan but I'll answer to His Satanic Majesty if you prefer. As regards Slashdot I've been a reasonably regular story submitter for some years and have seen the same decline as most, if not all, of you. I kept hoping against hope that it would recover but the beta and the lack of real regard for the community have eroded my enthusiasm for the site to as good as zero. We appear to have a fresh chance at something worthwhile here and I hope that if we all put the energy into this that has been expended on complaints that have fallen on deaf ears into this we can pull it off. CoolHand wrote: > I'm here for the Slashdot Exodus... > Has everyone else shown up yet?? > Do we have Natalie naked & petrified here? > ...CoolHnd30 > > John Brownalt wrote: > >> Welcome Slashdot Beta Exodus (just kidding, but > it would be funny). >> >> Watch out for that RocketRabbit, while I thank > him/her for pointing me >> at eternal-september.org, I noted on slashdot a > somewhat racist comment >> they made about Richard Stallman. >> >> Still, it's nice to be back on usenet. While > there will never be a >> redesign of usenet, I do think there is immense > space for custom readers >> that could potentially compete (even for mere > mortals) with facebook, >> twitter, and slashdot. >> >> Long Live USENET!!!
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| From | CoolHand <coolhnd28@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-07 21:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ld46a1$5fr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #102 |
Yeah, I'm not confident in the methodology and "business plan" of the proposed altslashdot site that is being worked on.. Not "community" enough, IMHO... TrueSatan wrote: > Nope, but you do have me...TrueSatan but > I'll answer to His Satanic Majesty if you > prefer. > > As regards Slashdot I've been a > reasonably regular story submitter for > some years and have seen the same decline > as most, if not all, of you. I kept > hoping against hope that it would recover > but the beta and the lack of real regard > for the community have eroded my > enthusiasm for the site to as good as > zero. > > We appear to have a fresh chance at > something worthwhile here and I hope that > if we all put the energy into this that > has been expended on complaints that have > fallen on deaf ears into this we can pull > it off. > > CoolHand wrote: > >> I'm here for the Slashdot Exodus... >> Has everyone else shown up yet?? >> Do we have Natalie naked & petrified > here? >> ...CoolHnd30 >> >> John Brownalt wrote: >> >>> Welcome Slashdot Beta Exodus (just > kidding, but >> it would be funny). >>> >>> Watch out for that RocketRabbit, while > I thank >> him/her for pointing me >>> at eternal-september.org, I noted on > slashdot a >> somewhat racist comment >>> they made about Richard Stallman. >>> >>> Still, it's nice to be back on usenet. > While >> there will never be a >>> redesign of usenet, I do think there > is immense >> space for custom readers >>> that could potentially compete (even > for mere >> mortals) with facebook, >>> twitter, and slashdot. >>> >>> Long Live USENET!!!
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| From | TrueSatan <true_satan@fastmail.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2014-02-08 04:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ld4ami$oc7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #103 |
The guy behind it seems to have good intentions but the lack of concrete basis behind the site worries me...will he use the old slashcode...or a wiki...or goodness knows what. Will he restrict types of stories and if so on exactly what basis and in doing so have an overlord status over any community...and if there is an elite set who join in such decisions who selects them and how? Without a great deal more clarity about such utterly vital details I'm not committing myself to it just yet. CoolHand wrote: > Yeah, > I'm not confident in the methodology and "business plan" of the proposed > altslashdot site that is being worked on.. Not "community" enough, > IMHO... > > > TrueSatan wrote: > >> Nope, but you do have me...TrueSatan but >> I'll answer to His Satanic Majesty if you >> prefer. >> >> As regards Slashdot I've been a >> reasonably regular story submitter for >> some years and have seen the same decline >> as most, if not all, of you. I kept >> hoping against hope that it would recover >> but the beta and the lack of real regard >> for the community have eroded my >> enthusiasm for the site to as good as >> zero. >> >> We appear to have a fresh chance at >> something worthwhile here and I hope that >> if we all put the energy into this that >> has been expended on complaints that have >> fallen on deaf ears into this we can pull >> it off. >> >> CoolHand wrote: >> >>> I'm here for the Slashdot Exodus... >>> Has everyone else shown up yet?? >>> Do we have Natalie naked & petrified >> here? >>> ...CoolHnd30 >>> >>> John Brownalt wrote: >>> >>>> Welcome Slashdot Beta Exodus (just >> kidding, but >>> it would be funny). >>>> >>>> Watch out for that RocketRabbit, while >> I thank >>> him/her for pointing me >>>> at eternal-september.org, I noted on >> slashdot a >>> somewhat racist comment >>>> they made about Richard Stallman. >>>> >>>> Still, it's nice to be back on usenet. >> While >>> there will never be a >>>> redesign of usenet, I do think there >> is immense >>> space for custom readers >>>> that could potentially compete (even >> for mere >>> mortals) with facebook, >>>> twitter, and slashdot. >>>> >>>> Long Live USENET!!!
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| From | Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-07 22:39 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ld4jfo$o9a$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #103 |
On 2014-02-08 02:54:57 +0000, CoolHand said: > Yeah, > I'm not confident in the methodology and "business plan" of the proposed > altslashdot site that is being worked on.. Not "community" enough, IMHO... It's pretty clear that altslashdot as it is envisioned by the people who are currently attempting it, will have all the downsides to the current /. with several other foibles as well. They appear to be obsessed with moderation, which while useful was more often abused than not at ./ which is the reason I always browsed at -1. The best thing to do is post an interesting story to this group and comment on the stories other people post, that you find interesting. DOWN WITH BETA, UP WITH USENET!
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| From | "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> |
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| Date | 2014-02-08 12:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <52f61e7f$0$2931$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> |
| In reply to | #102 |
op 08-02-14 02:48 schreef TrueSatan: > Nope, but you do have me...TrueSatan but > I'll answer to His Satanic Majesty if you > prefer. > > As regards Slashdot I've been a > reasonably regular story submitter for > some years and have seen the same decline > as most, if not all, of you. I kept > hoping against hope that it would recover > but the beta and the lack of real regard > for the community have eroded my > enthusiasm for the site to as good as > zero. > > We appear to have a fresh chance at > something worthwhile here and I hope that > if we all put the energy into this that > has been expended on complaints that have > fallen on deaf ears into this we can pull > it off. > > CoolHand wrote: > >> I'm here for the Slashdot Exodus... >> Has everyone else shown up yet?? >> Do we have Natalie naked & petrified > here? >> ...CoolHnd30 >> >> John Brownalt wrote: >> >>> Welcome Slashdot Beta Exodus (just > kidding, but >> it would be funny). >>> >>> Watch out for that RocketRabbit, while > I thank >> him/her for pointing me >>> at eternal-september.org, I noted on > slashdot a >> somewhat racist comment >>> they made about Richard Stallman. >>> >>> Still, it's nice to be back on usenet. > While >> there will never be a >>> redesign of usenet, I do think there > is immense >> space for custom readers >>> that could potentially compete (even > for mere >> mortals) with facebook, >>> twitter, and slashdot. >>> >>> Long Live USENET!!! > Both of you need to learn that usenet is not Microsoft Outlook so here we post replies *after* first reading the post.
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| From | brendan.halpin@ul.ie (Brendan Halpin) |
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| Date | 2014-02-19 23:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <87sirer8hj.fsf@wivenhoe.ul.ie> |
| In reply to | #114 |
On Sat, Feb 08 2014, Dirk T. Verbeek wrote: > Both of you need to learn that usenet is not Microsoft Outlook so here > we post replies *after* first reading the post. That's like RTFA. Will never catch on with a Slashdot crew. B -- Brendan Halpin, Head of Department, Sociology, University of Limerick, Ireland Tel: w +353-61-213147 f +353-61-202569 h +353-61-338562; Room F1-002 x 3147 mailto:brendan.halpin@ul.ie ULSociology on Facebook: http://on.fb.me/fjIK9t http://teaching.sociology.ul.ie/bhalpin/wordpress twitter:@ULSociology
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| From | 2phar <none@example.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-07 23:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ld4b08$oob$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76 |
On 2/7/2014 5:45 AM, John Brownalt wrote: > Welcome Slashdot Beta Exodus (just kidding, but it would be funny). > > Watch out for that RocketRabbit, while I thank him/her for pointing me > at eternal-september.org, I noted on slashdot a somewhat racist comment > they made about Richard Stallman. > > Still, it's nice to be back on usenet. While there will never be a > redesign of usenet, I do think there is immense space for custom readers > that could potentially compete (even for mere mortals) with facebook, twitter, > and slashdot. > > Long Live USENET!!! > Is comp.misc the best place for this... should we be proposing a slashdot specific group... alt.portman.hotgrits or whatever?
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| From | Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-07 22:41 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ld4jjj$ono$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #105 |
On 2014-02-08 04:15:05 +0000, 2phar said: > On 2/7/2014 5:45 AM, John Brownalt wrote: >> Welcome Slashdot Beta Exodus (just kidding, but it would be funny). >> >> Watch out for that RocketRabbit, while I thank him/her for pointing me >> at eternal-september.org, I noted on slashdot a somewhat racist comment >> they made about Richard Stallman. >> >> Still, it's nice to be back on usenet. While there will never be a >> redesign of usenet, I do think there is immense space for custom readers >> that could potentially compete (even for mere mortals) with facebook, twitter, >> and slashdot. >> >> Long Live USENET!!! >> > > Is comp.misc the best place for this... should we be proposing a > slashdot specific group... alt.portman.hotgrits or whatever? Comp.misc seems to be totally abandoned, and is already carried by the news servers. This is the main reason why I advocate its use - we certainly don't have to convince anybody to peer it and we won't piss off its current users.
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