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  Gedit gets a GUI makeover in Gnome 3.12 RS Wood  <rswood@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-24 11:41 +0000
    Re: Gedit gets a GUI makeover in Gnome 3.12 Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-02-24 12:16 -0300
      Re: Gedit gets a GUI makeover in Gnome 3.12 RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-24 18:00 +0000
        Re: Gedit gets a GUI makeover in Gnome 3.12 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2014-02-24 13:50 -0500
          Re: Gedit gets a GUI makeover in Gnome 3.12 RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-24 20:46 +0000
            Re: Gedit gets a GUI makeover in Gnome 3.12 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2014-02-24 16:10 -0500
    Re: Gedit gets a GUI makeover in Gnome 3.12 Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2014-03-08 19:10 +0000

#840 — Gedit gets a GUI makeover in Gnome 3.12

From the "because that's what's holding Gnome3 back" department:
Title: A Look At The New Gedit GUI In GNOME 3.12
Author:
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 09:16:36 -0500
Link: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Phoronix/~3/UhJU_dzVaQU/vr.php

With the upcoming release of GNOME 3.12 there is a brand new user-interface
for Gedit, GNOME's text editor...[image 1]

Links:
[1]: http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Phoronix/~4/UhJU_dzVaQU (image)

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#848

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:41:55 +0000 (UTC), RS Wood
<rswood@therandymon.com> wrote:

>From the "because that's what's holding Gnome3 back" department:
>Title: A Look At The New Gedit GUI In GNOME 3.12
>Author:
>Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 09:16:36 -0500
>Link: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Phoronix/~3/UhJU_dzVaQU/vr.php
>
>With the upcoming release of GNOME 3.12 there is a brand new user-interface
>for Gedit, GNOME's text editor...[image 1]
>
>Links:
>[1]: http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Phoronix/~4/UhJU_dzVaQU (image)

	I just hope the "bookmarks" and "most recent files" bugs get
solved. They used to work on GNOME 2, but not with GNOME 3. (Using
Debian Wheezy). I waste a lot of time looking for files I need to
frequently edit.
	[]'s
-- 
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy  - Google 2012

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#856

Shadow wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:41:55 +0000 (UTC), RS Wood
> <rswood@therandymon.com>  wrote:
>
>> From the "because that's what's holding Gnome3 back" department:
>> Title: A Look At The New Gedit GUI In GNOME 3.12
>> Author:
>> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 09:16:36 -0500
>> Link: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Phoronix/~3/UhJU_dzVaQU/vr.php
>>
>> With the upcoming release of GNOME 3.12 there is a brand new user-interface
>> for Gedit, GNOME's text editor...[image 1]
>>
>> Links:
>> [1]: http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Phoronix/~4/UhJU_dzVaQU (image)
>
> 	I just hope the "bookmarks" and "most recent files" bugs get
> solved. They used to work on GNOME 2, but not with GNOME 3. (Using
> Debian Wheezy). I waste a lot of time looking for files I need to
> frequently edit.
> 	[]'s

I had a look at the screenshots and wasn't overly impressed.  They are 
messing with menus and stuff in a way that looks pretty (in fact it 
looks very much inspired by those floating menus that iOS uses) but at 
the expense of introducing extra keystrokes or mouse clicks to get stuff 
done.

If you follow the link through to that Silencio guy's blog
(http://blogs.gnome.org/pbor/2014/02/20/gedit-new-look/) I think this 
comment is pretty appropriate for the other changes made as well:

"The first picture looks wrong. Instead of having two buttons next to 
each other, there’s a drop-down list. Therefore instead of one action to 
switch (click a button), I need two actions (click the list, click the 
item). The drop-down list should be displayed only when there’s not 
enough horizontal space for the buttons to be displayed next to each 
other (I’m assuming that extensions can add additional buttons)."

It does *look* nice, but unfortunately that's not what I ask of my 
software.  (I still use Xemacs sometimes, and it's frikkin' ugly, let's 
face it).

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#865

RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> writes:

> Shadow wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:41:55 +0000 (UTC), RS Wood
>> <rswood@therandymon.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> From the "because that's what's holding Gnome3 back" department:
>>> Title: A Look At The New Gedit GUI In GNOME 3.12
>>> Author:
>>> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 09:16:36 -0500
>>> Link: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Phoronix/~3/UhJU_dzVaQU/vr.php
>>>
>>> With the upcoming release of GNOME 3.12 there is a brand new user-interface
>>> for Gedit, GNOME's text editor...[image 1]
>>>
>>> Links:
>>> [1]: http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Phoronix/~4/UhJU_dzVaQU (image)
>>
>> 	I just hope the "bookmarks" and "most recent files" bugs get
>> solved. They used to work on GNOME 2, but not with GNOME 3. (Using
>> Debian Wheezy). I waste a lot of time looking for files I need to
>> frequently edit.
>> 	[]'s
>
> I had a look at the screenshots and wasn't overly impressed.  They are
> messing with menus and stuff in a way that looks pretty (in fact it
> looks very much inspired by those floating menus that iOS uses) but at
> the expense of introducing extra keystrokes or mouse clicks to get
> stuff done.
>
> If you follow the link through to that Silencio guy's blog
> (http://blogs.gnome.org/pbor/2014/02/20/gedit-new-look/) I think this
> comment is pretty appropriate for the other changes made as well:
>
> "The first picture looks wrong. Instead of having two buttons next to
> each other, there’s a drop-down list. Therefore instead of one action
> to switch (click a button), I need two actions (click the list, click
> the item). The drop-down list should be displayed only when there’s
> not enough horizontal space for the buttons to be displayed next to
> each other (I’m assuming that extensions can add additional buttons)."
>
> It does *look* nice, but unfortunately that's not what I ask of my
> software.  (I still use Xemacs sometimes, and it's frikkin' ugly,
> let's face it).

You should try Emacs instead.
Almost the same as XEmacs except for active support,
more features, and faster.

Anyway, if your XEmacs looks ugly, it's your own fault.
In my case, menubar turned off, tool bar turned off,
background black, default foreground Chartreuse,
Mode line wheat with 3d effect.

I don't see much of the editor except for the mode line,
but that's the way I want it.  And the text I'm editing
looks great.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#869

On 2014-02-24, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> writes:
>
>> Shadow wrote:
>>> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:41:55 +0000 (UTC), RS Wood
>>> <rswood@therandymon.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> From the "because that's what's holding Gnome3 back" department:
>>>> Title: A Look At The New Gedit GUI In GNOME 3.12
>>>> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 09:16:36 -0500

>> It does *look* nice, but unfortunately that's not what I ask of my
>> software.  (I still use Xemacs sometimes, and it's frikkin' ugly,
>> let's face it).
>
> You should try Emacs instead.
> Almost the same as XEmacs except for active support,
> more features, and faster.
>
> Anyway, if your XEmacs looks ugly, it's your own fault.
> In my case, menubar turned off, tool bar turned off,
> background black, default foreground Chartreuse,
> Mode line wheat with 3d effect.
>
> I don't see much of the editor except for the mode line,
> but that's the way I want it.  And the text I'm editing
> looks great.
>

I *do* use emacs 23, actually, and prefer it to Xemacs.  Was just
pointing out that I'm ok using software that's not easy on the eyes.
I'll try that color scheme tonight and see if it works. Truth is, I use
most editors - emacs and vim - on the console, so lousy Xwindows
graphics aren't often a problem :)   
 

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#871

RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> writes:

> On 2014-02-24, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> writes:
>>
>>> Shadow wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:41:55 +0000 (UTC), RS Wood
>>>> <rswood@therandymon.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From the "because that's what's holding Gnome3 back" department:
>>>>> Title: A Look At The New Gedit GUI In GNOME 3.12
>>>>> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 09:16:36 -0500
>
>>> It does *look* nice, but unfortunately that's not what I ask of my
>>> software.  (I still use Xemacs sometimes, and it's frikkin' ugly,
>>> let's face it).
>>
>> You should try Emacs instead.
>> Almost the same as XEmacs except for active support,
>> more features, and faster.
>>
>> Anyway, if your XEmacs looks ugly, it's your own fault.
>> In my case, menubar turned off, tool bar turned off,
>> background black, default foreground Chartreuse,
>> Mode line wheat with 3d effect.
>>
>> I don't see much of the editor except for the mode line,
>> but that's the way I want it.  And the text I'm editing
>> looks great.
>
> I *do* use emacs 23, actually, and prefer it to Xemacs.  Was just
> pointing out that I'm ok using software that's not easy on the eyes.
> I'll try that color scheme tonight and see if it works. Truth is, I use
> most editors - emacs and vim - on the console, so lousy Xwindows
> graphics aren't often a problem :)   

In the old days, we called mainframe terminals green screens.
Green on black was (and is) considered easy on the eyes.
If you just use the color green (Red=0,Green=255,Blue=0) it
will be too dark. Chartreuse is brighter and works well as
a foreground against black.

Not sure what you mean by lousy XWindows graphics.
XWindows draws widgets and fonts like any other OS.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#1379

RS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com> wrote:
> From the "because that's what's holding Gnome3 back" department:
> Title: A Look At The New Gedit GUI In GNOME 3.12
> Author:
> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 09:16:36 -0500
> Link: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Phoronix/~3/UhJU_dzVaQU/vr.php
>
> With the upcoming release of GNOME 3.12 there is a brand new user-interface
> for Gedit, GNOME's text editor...[image 1]
>
> Links:
> [1]: http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Phoronix/~4/UhJU_dzVaQU (image)

This post serves mostly to announce my lurker status to the group. :) I
also used to lurk on slashdot many years ago.
 
I too returned to my usenet roots a while ago because WWW's "average IQ"
is in decline. Regardless, WWW also enables me to hear some voices of
genuine genius for the first time. It's my bet that I can count on
usenet to clue me in on the best of WWW.
 
WWW searches are now too painful to endure. I bet that

   find . | grep -l gedit | grep -l fails | grep -l save | grep files
 
under the appropriate usenet group directory will find a pertinent
answer quicker than a traditional WWW search. That's why I archive
usenet to my own server; to search my own way and to play by my own
rules.

Enough of politics. The information that follows is of limited use given
that gedit 3.x has been released. It's mostly an excuse to post to
comp.misc.

Good luck guys!
###

For years a gedit bug caused a failure to properly save files on an smb
file system. The patch that follows took care of the problem for me.
(My CVS chops leave a lot to be desired.)

    /* kuenz close the file so we can rename it */
    if (close (lsaver->priv->fd) != 0)
    {
      g_warning("couldn't close");
    }

###

    /* kuenz close tmpfd so we can rename it */
    if (close (tmpfd) != 0)
    {
      g_warning("could not close tmpfd");
    }

###
    /* restat and get the mime type */
    /* kuenz if (fstat (tmpfd, &new_statbuf) != 0) */
    if (stat (lsaver->priv->local_path, &new_statbuf) != 0)
    {
      g_set_error (&lsaver->priv->error,
             G_IO_ERROR,
             g_io_error_from_errno (errno),
             "%s", g_strerror (errno));

      close (tmpfd);
      goto out;
    }

--

Don Kuenz

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