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Finally Plan 9 is GPL

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First post2014-02-17 15:05 +0000
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  Finally Plan 9 is GPL 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-17 15:05 +0000
    Re: Finally Plan 9 is GPL RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-17 16:23 +0000
      Re: Finally Plan 9 is GPL wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-17 12:23 +0000
    Re: Finally Plan 9 is GPL Change Adverse <cj.speakeasy@AAARGHgmail.com> - 2014-02-17 21:55 -0600
    Re: Finally Plan 9 is GPL Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> - 2014-02-18 16:56 +0000
    Re: Finally Plan 9 is GPL Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-18 17:04 -0800

#487 — Finally Plan 9 is GPL

From2phar <none@example.com>
Date2014-02-17 15:05 +0000
SubjectFinally Plan 9 is GPL
Message-ID<ldt8et$2mh$1@dont-email.me>
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/14/plan_9_moves_to_gnu_space/

Anyone ever done much with Plan 9? It's somewhere deep in my todo list to 
give it a go.

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#490

FromRS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
Date2014-02-17 16:23 +0000
Message-ID<53023786$0$29265$862e30e2@ngroups.net>
In reply to#487
On 2014-02-17 15:05:01 +0000, 2phar said:

> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/14/plan_9_moves_to_gnu_space/
> 
> Anyone ever done much with Plan 9? It's somewhere deep in my todo list to
> give it a go.

Plan 9 interests me, though I doubt I could get it working on my 
hardware.  Part of me wonders if the extreme "everything is a file" 
philosphy isn't the equivalent of the OSI stack – theoretically good, 
perhaps, but maybe too much in practice.

Also on my list of things to tinker with is a VMS/VAX system.  I used 
one for producing mechanical drawings back when I was working in 
landsurveying for a company that used a drafting program on a MiniVAX.  
It was my first exposure to a minicomputer, having spent a couple years 
on IBM desktops.

Also, Glenda the Rabbit as an icon, is awesome.  I think these days 
she's one of the best unknown icons out there, less well-known even 
than Beastie.

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#494

Fromwjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com>
Date2014-02-17 12:23 +0000
Message-ID<bmeusoFpfafU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#490
> On 2014-02-17 15:05:01 +0000, 2phar said:
>
> Plan 9 interests me, though I doubt I could get it working on my
> hardware.  Part of me wonders if the extreme "everything is a file"
> philosphy isn't the equivalent of the OSI stack - theoretically good,
> perhaps, but maybe too much in practice.

You should check out the Plan9 stuff at http://cat-v.org/ ... they forked it quite a while ago, and just released a new version in January.

> Also on my list of things to tinker with is a VMS/VAX system.  I used
> one for producing mechanical drawings back when I was working in
> landsurveying for a company that used a drafting program on a MiniVAX.
> It was my first exposure to a minicomputer, having spent a couple years
> on IBM desktops.

VMS is an interesting system. I once administered a couple of DEC Alpha systems that ran OpenVMS 6.1... this was toward the end of the 20th. Anyway, it felt really "old" to me... powerful, but arcane.

> Also, Glenda the Rabbit as an icon, is awesome.  I think these days
> she's one of the best unknown icons out there, less well-known even
> than Beastie.

Gordon, the Go Gopher (for the Google Go language) is from the same artist, Renee' French. She's married to Rob Pike, a principal behind both projects.

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#516

FromChange Adverse <cj.speakeasy@AAARGHgmail.com>
Date2014-02-17 21:55 -0600
Message-ID<qwuzf8ke2c9$.1dpnisf0iv09t$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#487
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:05:01 +0000 (UTC), 2phar belched forth:


> Anyone ever done much with Plan 9? It's somewhere deep in my todo list to 
> give it a go.

I'd always meant to try it out.  Perhaps this'll provide the impetus, as
I'm weaning myself off Solaris and could use a challenge.

-- 
Change Adverse and stubborn.
Remove guttural scream from my email address to reply.

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#531

FromRandy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid>
Date2014-02-18 16:56 +0000
Message-ID<le03bs$qao$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#487
In article <ldt8et$2mh$1@dont-email.me>, 2phar wrote:
> Anyone ever done much with Plan 9? It's somewhere deep in my todo list to 
> give it a go.
Same here.  I just need to find some way to justify putting time
into Plan 9 rather than actual work, then I'll finally get around to
it :P

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#553

FromOregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com>
Date2014-02-18 17:04 -0800
Message-ID<le0vv0$ndd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#487
I've been playing around with Plan 9 (specifically the much more active 
fork of the OS, called 9front) for a while.  It's a pretty familiar 
environment from the shell.  Everything is a file, including windows 
and sound devices.  It's pretty neat in that way and I can see a lot of 
potential.  The issues that I have with the OS, as it stands, are few 
but quite crippling for most users.  It essentially is meant for 
tinkering by developers, and I would guess that most people run it in a 
virtual machine.  There are very few end user applications.  The 
official interface is a very strange but oddly compelling program 
called Acme, which is kind of a blend of a multi-window shell and text 
editor that is very mouse-oriented.  It has a couple of neat features, 
though - a write-once filesystem in addition to the regular kind, the 
file-oriented interface of course, and the fact that it is extremely 
lightweight.  It also supports transparent integration of different 
machines into one larger virtual, distributed machine made up of 
terminal nodes, compute nodes, and storage nodes.

It's worth a shot to see what the Unix developers thought they should 
replace Unix with.

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