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| Started by | 2phar <none@example.com> |
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| First post | 2014-02-17 15:05 +0000 |
| Last post | 2014-02-18 17:04 -0800 |
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Finally Plan 9 is GPL 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-17 15:05 +0000
Re: Finally Plan 9 is GPL RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-17 16:23 +0000
Re: Finally Plan 9 is GPL wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-17 12:23 +0000
Re: Finally Plan 9 is GPL Change Adverse <cj.speakeasy@AAARGHgmail.com> - 2014-02-17 21:55 -0600
Re: Finally Plan 9 is GPL Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> - 2014-02-18 16:56 +0000
Re: Finally Plan 9 is GPL Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-18 17:04 -0800
| From | 2phar <none@example.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-17 15:05 +0000 |
| Subject | Finally Plan 9 is GPL |
| Message-ID | <ldt8et$2mh$1@dont-email.me> |
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/14/plan_9_moves_to_gnu_space/ Anyone ever done much with Plan 9? It's somewhere deep in my todo list to give it a go.
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| From | RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-17 16:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <53023786$0$29265$862e30e2@ngroups.net> |
| In reply to | #487 |
On 2014-02-17 15:05:01 +0000, 2phar said: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/14/plan_9_moves_to_gnu_space/ > > Anyone ever done much with Plan 9? It's somewhere deep in my todo list to > give it a go. Plan 9 interests me, though I doubt I could get it working on my hardware. Part of me wonders if the extreme "everything is a file" philosphy isn't the equivalent of the OSI stack – theoretically good, perhaps, but maybe too much in practice. Also on my list of things to tinker with is a VMS/VAX system. I used one for producing mechanical drawings back when I was working in landsurveying for a company that used a drafting program on a MiniVAX. It was my first exposure to a minicomputer, having spent a couple years on IBM desktops. Also, Glenda the Rabbit as an icon, is awesome. I think these days she's one of the best unknown icons out there, less well-known even than Beastie.
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| From | wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-17 12:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bmeusoFpfafU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #490 |
> On 2014-02-17 15:05:01 +0000, 2phar said: > > Plan 9 interests me, though I doubt I could get it working on my > hardware. Part of me wonders if the extreme "everything is a file" > philosphy isn't the equivalent of the OSI stack - theoretically good, > perhaps, but maybe too much in practice. You should check out the Plan9 stuff at http://cat-v.org/ ... they forked it quite a while ago, and just released a new version in January. > Also on my list of things to tinker with is a VMS/VAX system. I used > one for producing mechanical drawings back when I was working in > landsurveying for a company that used a drafting program on a MiniVAX. > It was my first exposure to a minicomputer, having spent a couple years > on IBM desktops. VMS is an interesting system. I once administered a couple of DEC Alpha systems that ran OpenVMS 6.1... this was toward the end of the 20th. Anyway, it felt really "old" to me... powerful, but arcane. > Also, Glenda the Rabbit as an icon, is awesome. I think these days > she's one of the best unknown icons out there, less well-known even > than Beastie. Gordon, the Go Gopher (for the Google Go language) is from the same artist, Renee' French. She's married to Rob Pike, a principal behind both projects.
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| From | Change Adverse <cj.speakeasy@AAARGHgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-17 21:55 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <qwuzf8ke2c9$.1dpnisf0iv09t$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #487 |
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:05:01 +0000 (UTC), 2phar belched forth: > Anyone ever done much with Plan 9? It's somewhere deep in my todo list to > give it a go. I'd always meant to try it out. Perhaps this'll provide the impetus, as I'm weaning myself off Solaris and could use a challenge. -- Change Adverse and stubborn. Remove guttural scream from my email address to reply.
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| From | Randy Westlund <Vorzakir@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-02-18 16:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <le03bs$qao$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #487 |
In article <ldt8et$2mh$1@dont-email.me>, 2phar wrote: > Anyone ever done much with Plan 9? It's somewhere deep in my todo list to > give it a go. Same here. I just need to find some way to justify putting time into Plan 9 rather than actual work, then I'll finally get around to it :P
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| From | Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-18 17:04 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <le0vv0$ndd$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #487 |
I've been playing around with Plan 9 (specifically the much more active fork of the OS, called 9front) for a while. It's a pretty familiar environment from the shell. Everything is a file, including windows and sound devices. It's pretty neat in that way and I can see a lot of potential. The issues that I have with the OS, as it stands, are few but quite crippling for most users. It essentially is meant for tinkering by developers, and I would guess that most people run it in a virtual machine. There are very few end user applications. The official interface is a very strange but oddly compelling program called Acme, which is kind of a blend of a multi-window shell and text editor that is very mouse-oriented. It has a couple of neat features, though - a write-once filesystem in addition to the regular kind, the file-oriented interface of course, and the fact that it is extremely lightweight. It also supports transparent integration of different machines into one larger virtual, distributed machine made up of terminal nodes, compute nodes, and storage nodes. It's worth a shot to see what the Unix developers thought they should replace Unix with.
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