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Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn

Started byDale R Worley <worley@shell01.TheWorld.com>
First post2014-05-23 16:39 -0400
Last post2014-05-26 17:54 +0100
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  Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Dale R Worley <worley@shell01.TheWorld.com> - 2014-05-23 16:39 -0400
    Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2014-05-23 16:32 -0500
      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-23 23:28 +0000
      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-24 08:23 +0200
    Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-23 23:55 +0000
      Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2014-05-24 00:17 +0000
        Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2014-05-24 10:21 -0300
          Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2014-05-24 14:37 +0000
          Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-24 16:29 +0000
          Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-24 14:16 -0500
            Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2014-05-24 14:45 -0500
              Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-25 11:25 +0200
                Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-25 10:32 +0100
                  Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-25 21:40 +0000
                    Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 12:35 +0000
                      Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-26 13:34 -0500
                        Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 21:35 +0000
                          Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-05-26 21:47 +0000
                          Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-27 00:09 +0200
                          Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-28 16:07 -0500
                            Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2014-05-29 02:16 +0200
                              Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Will Honea <whonea@whonea.net> - 2014-05-28 23:23 -0600
                              Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-29 11:26 +0000
                                Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-29 10:30 -0500
                                  Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-29 20:05 +0100
                                    Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-29 20:31 +0000
                                      Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-29 22:36 +0100
                                        Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-29 19:16 -0500
                                          Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-30 12:19 +0000
                                            Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-31 15:31 +1000
                                              Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-31 23:54 +0000
                                                Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 11:31 +1000
                                                Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-01 10:27 +0100
                                                  Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-01 12:15 +0200
                                                    Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 09:14 +1000
                                                  Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 09:12 +1000
                                          Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-30 12:19 +0000
                                            Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 08:00 -0500
                                              Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2014-05-30 14:44 +0100
                                              Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-31 15:42 +1000
                                                Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-05-31 07:29 -0400
                                                  Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 07:36 +1000
                                                    Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-05-31 17:47 -0400
                                                      Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 09:37 +1000
                                                        Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-01 00:00 +0000
                                                          Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 11:34 +1000
                                                            Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-01 12:31 +0000
                                                              Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-06-01 12:48 -0800
                                                              Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 09:22 +1000
                                                              Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-06-02 07:09 -0400
                                                                Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2014-06-02 16:27 +0000
                                                                  Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2014-06-02 13:00 -0500
                                                                    Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2014-06-02 13:16 -0500
                                                                      Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-06-02 13:57 -0500
                                                              Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2014-08-29 13:38 -0400
                                                                Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-29 22:14 +0300
                                                                  Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? greymaus <greymausg@mail.com> - 2014-08-29 20:55 +0000
                                                                  Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-30 01:21 +0000
                                                    Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-31 23:54 +0000
                                                    Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-06-01 09:23 +0000
                                                  Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-06-01 09:44 -0500
                                                Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-31 23:54 +0000
                                                  Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 11:21 +1000
                                                  Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-06-01 09:59 -0500
                                                    Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-06-02 07:03 -0400
                                                      Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-06-04 09:33 -0800
                                                Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-06-01 09:35 -0500
                                                  Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 09:31 +1000
                                                    Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2014-06-01 21:59 -0500
                                                      Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 16:46 +1000
                                              Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-05-31 07:26 -0400
                                                Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-31 12:48 -0500
                                                  Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 07:44 +1000
                                                Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 07:32 +1000
                                                Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-06-01 12:18 -0800
                                      Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-29 18:59 -0500
                                        Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2014-05-30 07:28 +0100
                                          Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 09:26 -0500
                                            Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-05-30 15:24 -0800
                                        Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 17:40 +1000
                                      Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 16:24 +1000
                                      Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2014-05-30 15:57 +0000
                                        Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-30 16:14 +0000
                                          Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2014-05-31 12:46 +0000
                                        Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-31 21:41 -0400
                                          Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-01 12:31 +0000
                                            Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 09:19 +1000
                                            Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-06-02 07:06 -0400
                                    Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2014-05-29 21:46 +0200
                                      Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-05-29 21:31 -0400
                                        Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-29 20:49 -0500
                                          Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-05-30 02:00 +0000
                                            Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 11:42 -0500
                                          Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-05-30 06:32 -0400
                                            Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 16:22 -0500
                                              Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-30 22:43 +0100
                                          Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-30 08:06 -0400
                                            Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-30 12:29 +0000
                                            Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2014-05-30 13:23 +0100
                                            Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 09:44 -0500
                                      Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 15:52 +1000
                                      Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stan Barr <plan.b@dsl.pipex.com> - 2014-05-30 07:18 +0000
                                        Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 21:09 +1000
                                        Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2014-05-30 16:17 +0000
                                          Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-05-30 13:19 -0400
                                            Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-30 21:47 +0000
                                              Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-30 23:01 +0100
                                              Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-05-30 18:44 -0400
                                    Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-29 17:17 -0500
                                      Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-30 07:51 -0400
                                        Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 09:47 -0500
                                    Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-30 08:03 -0400
                                      Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 09:48 -0500
                                      Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-31 15:03 +1000
                                    Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2014-05-30 12:53 +0000
                                Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 15:14 +1000
                            Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2014-05-29 13:33 +0000
                            Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 14:40 +1000
                        Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? Will Honea <whonea@whonea.net> - 2014-05-26 20:38 -0600
                          Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 13:32 +1000
                      Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 05:58 +1000
          Re: How much does a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn weigh? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2014-05-25 15:09 +0000
      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-24 09:41 +0100
        Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "2ju" <2ju@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 20:37 +1000
          Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-24 14:05 +0000
            Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-24 18:48 +0100
              Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-25 12:34 +0200
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-05-25 13:57 +0100
                  Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-25 17:15 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-25 15:44 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stan Barr <plan.b@dsl.pipex.com> - 2014-05-25 16:28 +0000
            Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "2ju" <2ju@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 06:39 +1000
              Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-24 21:22 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "2ju" <2ju@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 08:19 +1000
                  Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-25 08:10 +0000
                    Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "2ju" <2ju@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 20:44 +1000
                      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-05-25 16:11 +0000
                        Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "2ju" <2ju@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 04:16 +1000
            Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-25 10:28 +0100
              Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2014-05-25 15:09 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stan Barr <plan.b@dsl.pipex.com> - 2014-05-25 16:32 +0000
                  Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-25 17:39 +0100
                    Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2014-05-25 12:20 -0500
                      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-25 18:55 +0100
                        Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-25 20:02 +0000
                          Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2014-05-25 22:29 +0100
                            Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2014-05-25 17:20 -0500
                          Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-26 05:06 +0000
                          Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-26 11:45 +0100
                            Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-26 12:34 +0000
                              Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-26 14:28 +0000
                                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-26 16:05 +0000
                            Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 12:35 +0000
                              Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-26 13:41 +0100
                                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-05-26 14:39 +0000
                                  Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-26 16:03 +0100
                                  Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2014-05-26 11:27 -0400
                                    Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-05-26 12:26 -0400
                              Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-26 13:36 -0500
                                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-05-26 18:46 +0000
                                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-26 21:27 +0200
                                  Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-05-26 15:46 -0400
                                    Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2014-05-26 17:01 -0500
                                      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-27 11:40 +0100
                                  Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-26 14:59 -0500
                                    Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-05-27 12:17 +0100
                                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn ERSHC <ershc123@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-27 03:50 +0000
                              Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 05:50 +1000
                        Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-26 12:54 -0400
                          Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-05-26 17:49 +0000
                            Re: a long way from a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2014-05-26 17:55 +0000
                            Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-26 19:48 +0100
                              Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-05-26 18:59 +0000
                              Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-27 09:03 -0400
                                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-27 16:01 +0100
                                  Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-27 16:03 +0100
                                    Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2014-05-27 16:55 +0100
                                      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-27 17:47 +0100
                                        Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2014-05-27 21:34 +0100
                                          Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-27 21:20 +0000
                                          Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2014-05-27 20:16 -0500
                                            Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-28 11:22 +0100
                                              Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-28 13:27 +0300
                                              Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2014-05-29 15:20 -0500
                                                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-30 11:39 +0100
                                                  Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-30 12:19 +0000
                                                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-30 07:43 -0400
                                                  Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-30 13:19 +0100
                                                    Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-30 12:29 +0000
                                                      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-30 16:57 +0300
                                    Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-27 17:28 +0100
                                      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-27 17:48 +0100
                                        Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2014-05-27 18:12 +0000
                                  Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-27 17:05 -0400
                                    Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-28 00:12 +0000
                                    Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-05-28 08:08 +0000
                                      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-28 11:01 +0100
                                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn cb@bobby.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2014-05-28 11:02 +0000
                            Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-27 08:53 -0400
                            Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Rob Brown <brown@greenslade.gmcl.internal> - 2014-05-27 21:05 +0000
                              Re: A long time before there was a revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2014-05-27 22:21 +0000
                                Re: A long time before there was a revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2014-05-28 14:38 -0500
                                Re: A long time before there was a revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-29 01:50 +0100
                                  Re: A long time before there was a revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-29 07:34 +0100
                                    Re: A long time before there was a revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-29 10:08 +0100
                                      Re: A long time before there was a revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-29 10:15 +0100
                                      Re: A long time before there was a revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-29 09:40 +0000
                          Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-26 20:58 +0200
                            Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-27 09:35 -0400
                          Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2014-05-26 20:58 +0100
                            Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-26 21:16 +0100
                              Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-05-26 20:22 +0000
                                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-27 11:33 +0100
                                  Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-05-27 10:49 -0400
                              Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-26 23:46 +0200
                              Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2014-05-27 06:39 +0100
                                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2014-05-27 10:45 +0000
                  Re: components not found in a Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2014-05-25 19:05 +0000
                  Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-25 22:23 +0200
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-26 17:20 +0100
                  Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2014-05-27 13:01 +0000
                    Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-29 00:24 +0100
                      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2014-05-29 12:52 +0000
                        Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-29 15:00 +0100
                          Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-05-29 14:21 -0700
                            Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-30 11:40 +0100
              Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2014-05-25 17:30 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-25 20:38 +0100
        Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-24 16:29 +0000
          Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-24 14:28 -0500
            Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-05-26 07:54 -0800
          Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-24 22:37 +0000
          Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stan Barr <plan.b@dsl.pipex.com> - 2014-05-25 07:16 +0000
            Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2014-05-25 10:26 +0000
      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2014-05-24 07:28 -0400
    Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-05-25 16:08 +0000
      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-25 19:33 +0000
        Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn polygonum <rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> - 2014-05-31 09:06 +0100
          Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-31 10:28 +0200
      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2014-05-26 17:54 +0100

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#3307

FromDave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date2014-05-27 20:16 -0500
Message-ID<lm3df6$3qe$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#3300
On 5/27/2014 3:34 PM, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Tue, 27 May 2014 17:47:21 +0100
> "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> "Ahem A Rivet's Shot" <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in message 
>> news:20140527165501.97240f6e0d3e01948da84220@eircom.net...
>>> On Tue, 27 May 2014 16:03:41 +0100
>>> "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <PEDANT>
>>>>     The antennae, the air transducers, use wires
>>>> </PEDANT>
>>>
>>> <PEDANT>
>>> What does air have to do with it ? They work fine in a vacuum.
>>> </PEDANT>
>>>
>>
>> <PEDANT>
>>      That maybe so, but they're not in a vacuum, they're in the air,
>> which gave rise
>> to the ealier term for antenna which was aerial, derived from aerial wire
>> to distinguish
>> it from the earth wire.
>> </PEDANT>
> 
> 	Older term ? On this side of the pond aerial is current usage.
> 
Here (US) I'd tend to use the word "aerial" to refer to simple, small
antennas (such as sticks out of the fender of a car). For large
complicated antennas (anything from the internal wire in an AM radio,
to a beam array such as is used for TV receivers or ham rigs, to a
radar dish, to the multiple complex structures attached to a TV
transmitter) as "antennas".  But "aerial" seems a wee bit quaint, I'd
never call TV "rabbit ears" an "aerial", and I might well choose the
word "antenna" even for those small, simple ones.

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#3316

From"gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>
Date2014-05-28 11:22 +0100
Message-ID<lm4dcj$rm7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#3307
"Dave Garland" <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote in message 
news:lm3df6$3qe$1@dont-email.me...
>>
> Here (US) I'd tend to use the word "aerial" to refer to simple, small
> antennas (such as sticks out of the fender of a car). For large
> complicated antennas (anything from the internal wire in an AM radio,
> to a beam array such as is used for TV receivers or ham rigs, to a
> radar dish, to the multiple complex structures attached to a TV
> transmitter) as "antennas".  But "aerial" seems a wee bit quaint, I'd
> never call TV "rabbit ears" an "aerial", and I might well choose the
> word "antenna" even for those small, simple ones.

And, of course, the correct plural is, "Antennae", deriving as it does
from, "Antemnae".

Certainly in acadaemic engineering in 1945, "Antennae" was the word used.

Perhaps "Antennas" came into widespread usage because nerds and geeks lacked 
a
proper education?

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#3317

FromMarko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
Date2014-05-28 13:27 +0300
Message-ID<87ppiyw63i.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net>
In reply to#3316
"gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>:

> Certainly in acadaemic engineering in 1945, "Antennae" was the word
> used.

Did they know how to pronounce it then?


Marko

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#3359

FromDave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date2014-05-29 15:20 -0500
Message-ID<lm84q5$nrd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#3316
On 5/28/2014 5:22 AM, gareth wrote:

> And, of course, the correct plural is, "Antennae", deriving as it does
> from, "Antemnae".
> 
> Certainly in acadaemic engineering in 1945, "Antennae" was the word used.

Yes, in ancient times it was "antennae".  More people learned Latin in
those days.

Merriam-Webster shows both forms as being acceptable (with "ae" listed
first).
Oxforddictionaries (that's the OED people) shows "antennas" as being
"N. American or technical", for the radio meaning.
Of course, there's always a battle between the lexiographic
prescriptionists and descriptionists.

Neither source tells me what "acadaemic" means, though I found it used
online here and there. An archaic British spelling, or perhaps that's
how it was spelled in 1945?

> Perhaps "Antennas" came into widespread usage because nerds and geeks lacked 
> a
> proper education?


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#3383

From"gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>
Date2014-05-30 11:39 +0100
Message-ID<lm9n5h$4vl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#3359
"Dave Garland" <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote in message 
news:lm84q5$nrd$1@dont-email.me...
> Neither source tells me what "acadaemic" means, though I found it used
> online here and there. An archaic British spelling, or perhaps that's
> how it was spelled in 1945?

Diphthong

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#3394

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2014-05-30 12:19 +0000
Message-ID<639385993423144957.369116peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#3383
"gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
> "Dave Garland" <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote in message 
> news:lm84q5$nrd$1@dont-email.me...
>> Neither source tells me what "acadaemic" means, though I found it used
>> online here and there. An archaic British spelling, or perhaps that's
>> how it was spelled in 1945?
> 
> Diphthong

Gesundheit!

-- 
Pete

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#3390

FromShmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid>
Date2014-05-30 07:43 -0400
Message-ID<53886ed6$22$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net>
In reply to#3359
In <lm84q5$nrd$1@dont-email.me>, on 05/29/2014
   at 03:20 PM, Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> said:

>Yes, in ancient times it was "antennae".

What about "antennæ"?

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#3395

From"gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>
Date2014-05-30 13:19 +0100
Message-ID<lm9svs$dpc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#3390
"Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote in 
message news:53886ed6$22$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net...
> In <lm84q5$nrd$1@dont-email.me>, on 05/29/2014
>   at 03:20 PM, Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> said:
>
>>Yes, in ancient times it was "antennae".
>
> What about "antennć"?

It is 47 years since last I studied latin, but I am
fairly sure that the plural forms were not diphthongs.

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#3398

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2014-05-30 12:29 +0000
Message-ID<425630902423145698.204523peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#3395
"gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
> "Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote in 
> message news:53886ed6$22$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net...
>> In <lm84q5$nrd$1@dont-email.me>, on 05/29/2014
>>   at 03:20 PM, Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> said:
>> 
>>> Yes, in ancient times it was "antennae".
>> 
>> What about "antennæ"?
> 
> It is 47 years since last I studied latin, but I am
> fairly sure that the plural forms were not diphthongs.

Written Latin didn't have dipthongs.

-- 
Pete

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#3406

FromMarko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
Date2014-05-30 16:57 +0300
Message-ID<874n07wern.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net>
In reply to#3398
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>:

> Written Latin didn't have dipthongs.

I suppose you mean ligatures. Latinists believe IULIUS CAESAR pronounced
his last name with a diphthong (vowel glide): ['kae-sar] or ['kaɪ-sar].


Marko

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#3294

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2014-05-27 17:28 +0100
Message-ID<270520141728583014%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#3291
In article <lm29ge$9ja$1@dont-email.me>, gareth
<no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:

> "Tim Streater" <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote in message 
> news:270520141601489225%timstreater@greenbee.net...
> > In article <53848d30$2$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net>, Seymour J.
> > <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> In <260520141948291288%timstreater@greenbee.net>, on 05/26/2014
> >>    at 07:48 PM, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
> >>
> >> >Well done. Quite why this was too much for Mr Metz is a puzzle.
> >>
> >> It wasn't to much, simply irrelevant. The fact remains that the
> >> "wireless" used wires.
> >
> > Not for transmitting/receiving the signal it didn't, which is what is
> > relevant here.
> 
> <PEDANT>
>     The antennae, the air transducers, use wires
> </PEDANT>

And they stretch from Boston to Noo York these wires, do they (to use a
previous example)?

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#3296

From"gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>
Date2014-05-27 17:48 +0100
Message-ID<lm2flm$qr6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#3294
"Tim Streater" <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote in message 
news:270520141728583014%timstreater@greenbee.net...
> And they stretch from Boston to Noo York these wires, do they (to use a
> previous example)?

In the case of the ULF kHz transmissions to your war-mongering
and completely unnecessary nuclear submarines, certainly so.

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#3298

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2014-05-27 18:12 +0000
Message-ID<qA4hv.352260$s87.294077@fx11.iad>
In reply to#3296
"gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> writes:
>"Tim Streater" <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote in message 
>news:270520141728583014%timstreater@greenbee.net...
>> And they stretch from Boston to Noo York these wires, do they (to use a
>> previous example)?
>
>In the case of the ULF kHz transmissions to your war-mongering
>and completely unnecessary nuclear submarines, certainly so.
>

If, by "ULF Khz" transmissions, you're really refering to ELF
transmissions, both sites (one in Wisconsin, one in Michigan)
were decommissioned in 2004.

The antenna "wire" was 14 to 28 miles in length.

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#3305

FromShmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid>
Date2014-05-27 17:05 -0400
Message-ID<5384fe07$8$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net>
In reply to#3290
In <270520141601489225%timstreater@greenbee.net>, on 05/27/2014
   at 04:01 PM, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:

>In article <53848d30$2$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net>, Seymour
>J. <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:

>> In <260520141948291288%timstreater@greenbee.net>, on 05/26/2014
>>    at 07:48 PM, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
>> 
>> >Well done. Quite why this was too much for Mr Metz is a puzzle.
>> 
>> It wasn't to much, simply irrelevant. The fact remains that the
>> "wireless" used wires.

>Not for transmitting/receiving the signal it didn't, which is what is
>relevant here.

You don't get to decide what is relevant.

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#3306

FromBob Eager <news0002@eager.cx>
Date2014-05-28 00:12 +0000
Message-ID<buknvoFjv7sU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#3305
On Tue, 27 May 2014 17:05:11 -0400, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote:

> In <270520141601489225%timstreater@greenbee.net>, on 05/27/2014
>    at 04:01 PM, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
> 
>>In article <53848d30$2$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net>, Seymour J.
>><spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>> In <260520141948291288%timstreater@greenbee.net>, on 05/26/2014
>>>    at 07:48 PM, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
>>> 
>>> >Well done. Quite why this was too much for Mr Metz is a puzzle.
>>> 
>>> It wasn't to much, simply irrelevant. The fact remains that the
>>> "wireless" used wires.
> 
>>Not for transmitting/receiving the signal it didn't, which is what is
>>relevant here.
> 
> You don't get to decide what is relevant.

Now you're just being silly.



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#3312

FromHuge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid>
Date2014-05-28 08:08 +0000
Message-ID<buljsfF481pU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#3305
On 2014-05-27, Shmuel Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:
> In <270520141601489225%timstreater@greenbee.net>, on 05/27/2014
>    at 04:01 PM, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
>
>>In article <53848d30$2$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net>, Seymour
>>J. <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> In <260520141948291288%timstreater@greenbee.net>, on 05/26/2014
>>>    at 07:48 PM, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
>>> 
>>> >Well done. Quite why this was too much for Mr Metz is a puzzle.
>>> 
>>> It wasn't to much, simply irrelevant. The fact remains that the
>>> "wireless" used wires.
>
>>Not for transmitting/receiving the signal it didn't, which is what is
>>relevant here.
>
> You don't get to decide what is relevant.

Have you been an arrogant, patronising twat all your life, or did you
come to it recently?


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#3313

From"Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1>
Date2014-05-28 11:01 +0100
Message-ID<op.xgkd5lo1o4et73@dell3100>
In reply to#3312
On Wed, 28 May 2014 09:08:47 +0100, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:

> On 2014-05-27, Shmuel Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:
>> In <270520141601489225%timstreater@greenbee.net>, on 05/27/2014
>>    at 04:01 PM, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
>>
>>> In article <53848d30$2$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net>, Seymour
>>> J. <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>> In <260520141948291288%timstreater@greenbee.net>, on 05/26/2014
>>>>    at 07:48 PM, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
>>>>
>>>> >Well done. Quite why this was too much for Mr Metz is a puzzle.
>>>>
>>>> It wasn't to much, simply irrelevant. The fact remains that the
>>>> "wireless" used wires.
>>
>>> Not for transmitting/receiving the signal it didn't, which is what is
>>> relevant here.
>>
>> You don't get to decide what is relevant.
>
> Have you been an arrogant, patronising twat all your life, or did you
> come to it recently?
>
>
Godwin in 3.


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#3318

Fromcb@bobby.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen)
Date2014-05-28 11:02 +0000
Message-ID<lm4fok$4u9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#3287
In article <53848d30$2$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net>,
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz  <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:
>In <260520141948291288%timstreater@greenbee.net>, on 05/26/2014
>   at 07:48 PM, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
>
>>Well done. Quite why this was too much for Mr Metz is a puzzle.
>
>It wasn't to much, simply irrelevant. The fact remains that the
>"wireless" used wires. Why that is too much for you is obvious.

It's quite simple: a device that is referred to as a "wireless", which 
is short for "wireless receiver", is a device that receives "wireless" 
transmissions (as opposed to a "wireless device" that receives 
transmissions) - it is not a claim that the device itself uses no wires 
for anything at all, just that the _transmissions_ it receives are 
wireless, which in the case of a radio receiver they very much are, in 
the sense that they do not require wires along the length of the 
transmission and that likely the majority of the transmission distance 
is achieved without wires - it's "wireless" as opposed to "wired", where 
there is some wire or set of wires that connect transmitter and receiver 
along the entire distance.

That there are wires involved at _some_ or even at _multiple_ points 
along the transmission path, or in the device itself, does not negate 
the fact that the transmission is such that wires are not required for 
the entire distance. Thus, a "wireless receiver" is a 'receiver' for 
'wireless transmissions', and that two-word term can then be shortened 
to "wireless" in a way that makes absolutely perfect sense (unless one 
were to deliberately try to avoid accepting that).

Best wishes,

// Christian

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#3288

FromShmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid>
Date2014-05-27 08:53 -0400
Message-ID<53848aac$47$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net>
In reply to#3234
In <llvuro$s2o$1@dont-email.me>, on 05/26/2014
   at 05:49 PM, Rich <rich@example.invalid> said:

>Radio (electromagnetic communication) in the days of its initial
>development was often referred to as "wireless".

I no, but the term was wrong from the get go, since the earliest
radios used wires.

>I suspect this was because it was competing against the telegraph
>system of the day,

Definitely. Madison Avenue[1] wins again.

[1] Generic Mad. Ave., not just the US one.

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#3301

FromRob Brown <brown@greenslade.gmcl.internal>
Date2014-05-27 21:05 +0000
Message-ID<slrnlo9vg0.rii.brown@greenslade.gmcl.internal>
In reply to#3234
["Followup-To:" header set to alt.sys.pdp11.]
On 2014-05-26, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
> I suspect this was because it was competing against the telegraph
> system of the day, and to send a telegraph from New York to Boston
> required that wires be strung from New York to Boston.  Radio did not
> require those telegraph wires to communicate from New York to Boston,
> and so, it got named "wireless".

I think we are far enough off topic now to ask this question.

Ten-plus years ago I was reading an account of an Atlantic convoy during
World War Two.  Some ship(s?) had lost contact with the convoy and the
convoy was trying to reconnect.  I clearly remember reading something to
the effect of "they could not establish contact using radio-telephone, so
they tried wireless".

When I was about 5, I figured the difference between radio-telephone and
the other thing was the shape of the instrument you held in your hand,
but I think it must be more than that.

What is the difference between radio-telephone and wireless?

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