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  British Health Service secretly grabs patient data "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-18 13:53 +1353
    Re: British Health Service secretly grabs patient data Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-18 16:53 -0800
    Re: British Health Service secretly grabs patient data Symbiote <usenet@symbiote.eu> - 2014-02-19 11:29 +0000
      Re: British Health Service secretly grabs patient data Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-02-24 12:54 +0000
    Re: British Health Service secretly grabs patient data Peter Percival <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> - 2014-02-24 13:41 +0000
      Re: British Health Service secretly grabs patient data "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-24 08:25 +0000
    Re: British Health Service secretly grabs patient data Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-02-24 12:23 -0300

#533 — British Health Service secretly grabs patient data

British doctors are calling on the government to let patients know of their right 
to opt out of the planned national data base.

NHS England plans to share data from GP medical records with other health services, 
researchers and even private companies.

Patients can opt out of the controversial "care.data" scheme, but 45 per cent are 
unaware of the plan, according to a poll by ICM Research for BBC Radio 4�s PM programme.

The British Medical Associations GPs committee chairman Chaand Nagpaul demanded 
the government inform patients and "produce evidence this has been achieved prior to uploads taking place".

source:"http://bma.org.uk/news-views-analysis/news/2014/february/call-to-boost-public-awareness-of-data-sharing"



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#550

On 2014-02-18 00:53:30 +0000, tdk said:

> British doctors are calling on the government to let patients know of 
> their right to opt out of the planned national data base.
> 
> NHS England plans to share data from GP medical records with other 
> health services, researchers and even private companies.
> 
> Patients can opt out of the controversial "care.data" scheme, but 45 
> per cent are unaware of the plan, according to a poll by ICM Research 
> for BBC Radio 4’s PM programme.
> 
> The British Medical Associations GPs committee chairman Chaand Nagpaul 
> demanded the government inform patients and "produce evidence this has 
> been achieved prior to uploads taking place".
> 
> source:"http://bma.org.uk/news-views-analysis/news/2014/february/call-to-boost-public-awareness-of-data-sharing" 
> 

This is pretty old news in the UK - the classic Duncan Campbell BBC 
series "Secret Society" ran an entire episode on the dangers and abuses 
of centralized databases.  It's a good series, well worth a watch.  It 
was produced in 1987 and many of the predictions it makes, and problems 
it points out, have come true.

Watch the whole series 
here:"magnet:?xt=urn:btih:5d36be43e07fe880a3c4ee7efa881248820a7729&dn=secret+society+suppressed+bbc+series+duncan+campbell+1987&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337" 
(strip " from each side of this magnet link).

Or if you prefer the Youtube, the relevant episode from the series can 
be watched here:  ("http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDS3VtzC-yk").

His show led to a major political scandal in the UK, and the series 
itself was suppressed by an official order 
("http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zircon_affair").  This is no run of the 
mill jibber jabber Alex Jones type series - it is a serious piece of 
investigative journalism.

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#570

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:53:30 +1353, tdk wrote:

> British doctors are calling on the government to let patients know of
> their right to opt out of the planned national data base.

The MySociety developers have launched an easy opt-out service at <http://
www.faxyourgp.com/>, based on the WriteToThem.com service (which lets you 
email/fax your MP).

I've opted out — I've not yet even received the pamphlet that was 
supposed to be sent to everyone.

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#843

On 2014-02-19, Symbiote <usenet@symbiote.eu> wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:53:30 +1353, tdk wrote:
>
>> British doctors are calling on the government to let patients know of
>> their right to opt out of the planned national data base.
>
> The MySociety developers have launched an easy opt-out service at
> <http:// www.faxyourgp.com/>, based on the WriteToThem.com service
> (which lets you email/fax your MP).
>
> I've opted out — I've not yet even received the pamphlet that was
> supposed to be sent to everyone.

That could be because you've elected not to receive un-addressed junk
mail
<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/24/nhs_england_care_data_leaflet_not_important_enough_exceptional_circumstances_tag/>
<http://preview.tinyurl.com/lgfo2eg>

I do not intend to opt out; the potential future benefits to humans in
general (from knowledge gained by analysing the information) seem to me
to outweigh possible disadvantages to me (from having the supposedly
anonymized data somehow related back to me with malicious intent - my
medical history isn't something I've ever kept secret from those who
need to know it).

<http://www.england.nhs.uk/ourwork/tsd/care-data/>

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#844

tdk wrote:

Neither "secretly" nor "grabs" are appropriate words.

> British doctors are calling on the government to let patients know of
> their right to opt out of the planned national data base.
>
> NHS England plans to share data from GP medical records with other
> health services, researchers and even private companies.
>
> Patients can opt out of the controversial "care.data" scheme, but 45 per
> cent are unaware of the plan, according to a poll by ICM Research for
> BBC Radio 4�s PM programme.
>
> The British Medical Associations GPs committee chairman Chaand Nagpaul
> demanded the government inform patients and "produce evidence this has
> been achieved prior to uploads taking place".
>
> source:"http://bma.org.uk/news-views-analysis/news/2014/february/call-to-boost-public-awareness-of-data-sharing"
>
>
>
>


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#846

> Neither "secretly" nor "grabs" are appropriate words. 
If you'd said 'British' I'd agree with you. This only applies to England.

regards
~tdk
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#849

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:53:30 +1353, "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> wrote:

>NHS England plans to share data from GP medical records with other health services, 
>researchers and even private companies.

	Someone gets rich. And everyone else gets screwed.
	Since sharing any private, personal data  with non-medical
operatives (i.e. private insurance schemes)  would break the
Hippocratic oath, I'd imagine most doctors would oppose it.
	[]'s
	
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