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Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1

From Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1
Date 2019-04-06 02:49 -0300
Organization Bridgewater Institute for Advanced Study - Blacksmith Shop
Message-ID <87tvfbr8d4.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> (permalink)
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Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> writes:

> Like (I suspect) many (most?) Unix users, I use the most appropriate
> tool for the job, GUI or CLI. With a "desktop enviroment", I have the
> choice. I presently have 5 GUI tools running and 4 CLI's on 4 desktops.

I'm 4 for six.  And *no* "desktop environment".  X sits on top of
Unix/Linux (so to speak) and a window manager sits on top of X. [1]
A "desktop environment" puts yet another huge load (pun intended) of
complexity on top of X in place of a simple window manager.  It brings
with it all sorts of superfluous stuff that, AFAICT, is mostly there,
as the OP opined, to make *ix "like Windoes".   An example is the
"task bar". Once it's there, app devs require a task bar for their
code to work.  The task bar is just another "do it our way because
it's better and you'll like it" bit of chrome.

Yeah, I'm being condescending to Huge here.  He deserves it given his
intemperate and vulgar responses to folks to disagree with him.  "No
DE" is not the same as "green terminal".  I have to struggle without X
but haven't used KDE since my first Linux install in '99 that I dumped
as soon as I figured out how to replace it.

[1] Managed somehow to kill my window manager without killing X.
    First time that's happened since '89.  It was possible to restart
    twm from an non-obscured xterm and all was well.

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2019-03-28 22:03 -0400
  Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Oregonian Haruspex <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2019-03-29 06:36 +0000
  Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> - 2019-04-04 16:07 +0000
    Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-04-04 17:16 +0000
      Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-04-04 21:15 +0000
        Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2019-04-04 19:03 -0400
          Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-04-05 07:46 +0000
            Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2019-04-05 07:56 +0000
              Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-04-05 16:35 +0000
                Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2019-04-06 02:49 -0300
                Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-04-06 09:07 +0000
                Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2019-04-06 07:48 -0400
                Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2019-04-06 11:56 +0000
                Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2019-04-06 09:44 -0400
                Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2019-04-06 13:53 +0000
                Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-04-06 13:35 +0000
          Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-04-05 13:35 +0000
            Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2019-04-05 13:38 +0000
              Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2019-04-05 16:36 +0000
    Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2019-04-05 12:25 +0300
    Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Steve555 <Steve555@reallybogus.nodomain.nowhere.invalid> - 2019-06-17 21:39 +0000
      Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-06-18 00:22 +0000
      Re: Linux archeology: KDE 0.1 Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-06-19 06:46 +0000

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