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Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org

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> btw: Any chance you would work together with soylentnews? Or is the code base too 
> different?

Well, from a technical point of view there are big differences.
soylentnews.org is slashcode, which is perl running directly on the DB. squte.com 
is in php on top of a high level framework (Drupal).

When I first set up squte.com as a slashdot look-a-like, I tried to use slashcode 
but found it a mess (see [2]). I switched to drupal with the slashcoments module 
[1].

I think a single dev could easily get a slashclone stable in a couple of days using 
slashcomments. Instead, soylentnews claim they have 30 devs, they've been fighting 
slashcode for a week, and still only have an alpha site.

The problems with slashcode must of already been fixed by the other slashdot clones, 
barrapunto.com, kuro5hin.org, etc. so the easiest fix would be to ask those sites 
for a snapshot of their code. But they haven't even contacted these sites, suggesting 
NIH syndrome.

Of course if they really just wanted to have a slashdot alternative - and didn't 
care who was running it - they could just redirect their domain to "www.kuro5hin.org/section/tech" 
and that's it. Problem solved.

There are even bigger idealogical differences. 

My vision for squte.com is to avoid the trap of 'community' sites that are actually 
owned by a business.

If you contribute to these sites you may think you are giving to the community, 
actually you are just donating IP to an entity that has a legal duty to it's shareholders 
to exploit it for maximum profit. The second it becomes more profitable to make 
the site less community-friendly, or put it behind a paywall, it will happen. 

IOW switching from slashdot to soylentnews doesn�t solve the basic problem.

Personally I will only contribute to a 'community site' if either all content 
is duplicated on Usenet (or a similar archived, open, network) or there is some 
guarantee they won't change the site against the users wishes.

soylentnews could have the site run by an elected foundation, instead it seems to 
be a friend-of-a-friend network of favouritism.     

I lurked on ###altslashdot for a while and just heard arguing about who was going 
to be allowed on the alpha site (and so get the lowest ids) - the decision was to 
base it on 'who you know' which led one user to describe soylentnews as "a hacker masonic lodge" 
and quit the project in disgust.

squte.com is an attempt to build a distributed discussion network that combines 
the free, open nature of Usenet with the relevance and interest of slashdot. I don't 
see soylentnews.org helping in this.

regards,
~tdk

[1] "https://drupal.org/project/slashcomments"
[2] "http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory&sid=99/12/30/164224"



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  Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 09:54 -0500
    Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 07:38 -0800
    Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-11 08:20 +0000
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        Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 11:05 -0800
  Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-11 04:24 +0424
    Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org John Brownalt <deconfliction@filteredperception.org> - 2014-02-11 11:36 +0000
      Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-11 11:01 +1101
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              Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-12 06:29 +0629
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-12 09:12 -0800
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-12 15:52 +0000
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                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-14 04:42 +0442
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-14 07:11 +0711
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org True Satan <true_satan@fastmail.co.uk> - 2014-02-14 13:27 +0000
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-14 08:33 +0833
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-15 12:19 +0100
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-15 13:26 +1326
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                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-16 05:51 +0551
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                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-13 04:45 +0445
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          Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-12 09:24 +0924
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