Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org

From	"tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com>
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org
Date	2014-02-11 05:48 +0548
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<4376-10205@usenet.squte.com> (permalink)
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Oops, sorry. That post seems to have got corrupted somehow. Here's what it 
should have said: 

Creating a new site doesn't solve the basic problem. The issue is common with 
sites built with user content. 

Typically the TOS of the site say it can do whatever it wants with the 
content, and the site owners have an incentive to add as much advertising & 
costs as possible. Users can vote with their feet and leave, but there is an 
element of 'lock-in' because the user's profile, rep and history are on the 
site. The longer the site goes on and the more content there is, the bigger 
the lock-in and so the more the owners can squeeze the user-base. This makes 
it inevitable that the site will add more and more burdens on users over time, 
till a new site comes along that is - at first - friendlier to users. It 
happened to experts-exchange (replaced with stackoverflow), to Geocities, and 
now it's happening to Slashdot. 

Adding a new site with a new owner just defers the problem, because the same 
forces apply no matter how altruistic the initial owner. The only solution 
that could work would be if the site wasrun by an elected foundation, but that 
isn't ideal either. 

What's needed is an open platform that isn't owned by one site. this is what 
I've proposed with the Communion network [1]. This allows many sites to share 
a discussion, if a user doesn't like what one site does, they can go to 
another one and continue posting in the same thread with the same ID, the same 
reputation etc. 

In order to join the network, a site has to accept the licence that stops them 
putting content behind a paywall or otherwise locking it in. Communion has a 
user-moderation system similar to Slashdot's. 

[1] http://squte.com/communion-network 

regards ~tdk 
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AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 12:20 -0800
  Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 09:54 -0500
    Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 07:38 -0800
    Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-11 08:20 +0000
  Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-10 15:37 +0000
    Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 07:42 -0800
    Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-10 10:53 -0500
      Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-10 15:59 +0000
        Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 08:44 -0800
          Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-10 19:46 +0000
      Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org Bill McGonigle <bill+usenet+2014@mcgonigle.us> - 2014-02-10 13:07 -0500
        Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 11:05 -0800
  Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-11 04:24 +0424
    Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org John Brownalt <deconfliction@filteredperception.org> - 2014-02-11 11:36 +0000
      Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-11 11:01 +1101
        Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 10:30 -0800
          Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-11 14:26 -0500
            Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 13:55 -0800
              Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-12 06:29 +0629
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-12 09:12 -0800
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-12 15:52 +0000
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "wjwlsn" <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-12 17:56 +0000
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-14 04:42 +0442
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-14 07:11 +0711
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org True Satan <true_satan@fastmail.co.uk> - 2014-02-14 13:27 +0000
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-14 08:33 +0833
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-15 12:19 +0100
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-15 13:26 +1326
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-15 13:49 +1349
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-15 22:07 +0100
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-16 05:51 +0551
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-16 15:18 +0100
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-17 06:07 +0607
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org 2phar <usenet9918@schartz.net> - 2014-02-12 19:03 -0500
                Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-13 04:45 +0445
          Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-12 04:44 +0444
          Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-12 11:24 +0000
          Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-12 09:24 +0924
    Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-11 05:48 +0548
      Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org TrueSatan <true_satan@fastmail.co.uk> - 2014-02-11 12:22 +0000
        Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-12 04:00 +0400
          Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-03-16 12:51 +0100
  Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-02-16 18:04 -0800
    Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-17 00:02 -0800
    Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-17 09:08 +0100
    Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-17 09:56 -0500
      Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-17 16:27 +0000
        Re: AltSlashdot becomes Soylentnews.org Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-18 09:38 -0500

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