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Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments?

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On 2026-09-21, Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> wrote:
> Den 2026-09-21 skrev Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>:
>> On 9/21/2026 5:17 PM, Martin Schöön wrote:
><snip>
>>> 
>>> Yesterday, however, I encountered a problem that a quick internet
>>> search told me is somewhat common: adding a package to an environment
>>> stalls at the 'solving environment' stage. I found a bunch of rather
>>> different 'fixes'. I have not tried any yet. I think maybe I am doing
>>> environments wrong.
>>> 
><snip>
>>> My thinking now:
>>> 
>>> I should have more rather than fewer environments and make them more
>>> task specific -- avoid 'general purpose' environments to limit the
>>> number of packages in each environment.
>>> 
>>> I have noticed that "conda update whatever" /always/ tells me everything
>>> is up-to-date. This can't be true. Will the procedure of the third
>>> bullet above solve this?
>>> 
>>> No, I have not tried asking any LLM. I hope for some real human advice.
>>> 
>> Dear Martin,
><snip>
>> Have you considered installing the offending package using your opera-
>> ting system package manager instead, if available as such?  There are
>> n+1 [1] Linux package managers, so I leave off any suggestions for the
>> command line tool.
>
> I think this is how most or even all Linux users start with Python. Then,
> after a while you want to use a Python package (or version) not catered
> for by your system package manager...

Indeed. Using the operating system package manager for Python
packages is only feasible if you yourself are creating a package
for that operating system.

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Best practise for managing Conda environments? Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2026-09-21 09:17 +0000
  Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-21 17:32 +0800
    Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2026-09-21 20:33 +0000
      Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2026-09-21 22:05 +0000
        Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-22 14:37 +0800
          Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-22 07:33 +0000
          Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2026-09-22 09:08 +0000
            Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-22 22:53 +0800
  Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-22 15:08 +0800
  Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-22 07:44 +0000
    Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> - 2026-09-22 10:14 +0200
  Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2026-09-22 19:53 +0000
    Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-23 04:57 +0800
      Formatting (was: Best practise for managing Conda environments?) ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-23 08:17 +0000
        Re: Formatting Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-23 20:08 +0800
          Re: Formatting ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-23 12:42 +0000
            Re: Formatting ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-23 14:43 +0000
              Re: Formatting ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-23 15:01 +0000
          Re: Formatting ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-23 13:38 +0000
        Re: Formatting (was: Best practise for managing Conda environments?) Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2026-09-24 08:31 +0000
          Re: Formatting (was: Best practise for managing Conda environments?) Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2026-09-25 08:53 +0000

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