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Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments?

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On 9/22/2026 6:05 AM, Jon Ribbens wrote:
> On 2026-09-21, Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Den 2026-09-21 skrev Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>:
>>> On 9/21/2026 5:17 PM, Martin Schöön wrote:
>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday, however, I encountered a problem that a quick internet
>>>> search told me is somewhat common: adding a package to an environment
>>>> stalls at the 'solving environment' stage. I found a bunch of rather
>>>> different 'fixes'. I have not tried any yet. I think maybe I am doing
>>>> environments wrong.
>>>>
>> <snip>
>>>> My thinking now:
>>>>
>>>> I should have more rather than fewer environments and make them more
>>>> task specific -- avoid 'general purpose' environments to limit the
>>>> number of packages in each environment.
>>>>
>>>> I have noticed that "conda update whatever" /always/ tells me everything
>>>> is up-to-date. This can't be true. Will the procedure of the third
>>>> bullet above solve this?
>>>>
>>>> No, I have not tried asking any LLM. I hope for some real human advice.
>>>>
>>> Dear Martin,
>> <snip>
>>> Have you considered installing the offending package using your opera-
>>> ting system package manager instead, if available as such?  There are
>>> n+1 [1] Linux package managers, so I leave off any suggestions for the
>>> command line tool.
>>
>> I think this is how most or even all Linux users start with Python. Then,
>> after a while you want to use a Python package (or version) not catered
>> for by your system package manager...
> 
> Indeed. Using the operating system package manager for Python
> packages is only feasible if you yourself are creating a package
> for that operating system.

Point taken.  Now, what is worrying me, is the lack of answers about the
Conda package manager.  I was under the impression Usenet was full of
Python coders [1], and someone would know what to do about the original
problem.

Is there really, in all of Usenet, nobody who knows how to solve this?


[1] Because some people are always talking about Python in comp.lang.c,
and comp.lang.lisp.  No need to name them as they haven't commented in
this discussion thread.
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Best practise for managing Conda environments? Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2026-09-21 09:17 +0000
  Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-21 17:32 +0800
    Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2026-09-21 20:33 +0000
      Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2026-09-21 22:05 +0000
        Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-22 14:37 +0800
          Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-22 07:33 +0000
          Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2026-09-22 09:08 +0000
            Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-22 22:53 +0800
  Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-22 15:08 +0800
  Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-22 07:44 +0000
    Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> - 2026-09-22 10:14 +0200
  Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2026-09-22 19:53 +0000
    Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-23 04:57 +0800
      Formatting (was: Best practise for managing Conda environments?) ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-23 08:17 +0000
        Re: Formatting Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-23 20:08 +0800
          Re: Formatting ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-23 12:42 +0000
            Re: Formatting ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-23 14:43 +0000
              Re: Formatting ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-23 15:01 +0000
          Re: Formatting ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-23 13:38 +0000
        Re: Formatting (was: Best practise for managing Conda environments?) Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2026-09-24 08:31 +0000
          Re: Formatting (was: Best practise for managing Conda environments?) Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2026-09-25 08:53 +0000

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