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Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments?

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On 9/22/2026 5:08 PM, Jon Ribbens wrote:
> On 2026-09-22, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> wrote:
>> On 9/22/2026 6:05 AM, Jon Ribbens wrote:
>>> On 2026-09-21, Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Den 2026-09-21 skrev Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid>:
>>>>> On 9/21/2026 5:17 PM, Martin Schöön wrote:
>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yesterday, however, I encountered a problem that a quick internet
>>>>>> search told me is somewhat common: adding a package to an environment
>>>>>> stalls at the 'solving environment' stage. I found a bunch of rather
>>>>>> different 'fixes'. I have not tried any yet. I think maybe I am doing
>>>>>> environments wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>>> My thinking now:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I should have more rather than fewer environments and make them more
>>>>>> task specific -- avoid 'general purpose' environments to limit the
>>>>>> number of packages in each environment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have noticed that "conda update whatever" /always/ tells me everything
>>>>>> is up-to-date. This can't be true. Will the procedure of the third
>>>>>> bullet above solve this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, I have not tried asking any LLM. I hope for some real human advice.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Martin,
>>>> <snip>
>>>>> Have you considered installing the offending package using your opera-
>>>>> ting system package manager instead, if available as such?  There are
>>>>> n+1 [1] Linux package managers, so I leave off any suggestions for the
>>>>> command line tool.
>>>>
>>>> I think this is how most or even all Linux users start with Python. Then,
>>>> after a while you want to use a Python package (or version) not catered
>>>> for by your system package manager...
>>>
>>> Indeed. Using the operating system package manager for Python
>>> packages is only feasible if you yourself are creating a package
>>> for that operating system.
>>
>> Point taken.  Now, what is worrying me, is the lack of answers about the
>> Conda package manager.  I was under the impression Usenet was full of
>> Python coders [1], and someone would know what to do about the original
>> problem.
>>
>> Is there really, in all of Usenet, nobody who knows how to solve this?
> 
> I've been using Python for nearly 30 years, but I'm afraid I've never
> heard of this 'conda' thing of which you speak. I use 'pip' for nearly
> everything, but apparently 'uv' is the new hotness.

I've used Python sporadically since roughly 2011.  I used to have nice
O'Reilly books but have chosen not to try to reacquire those.  They're
probably obsolete.

In any case, I've never used Conda either, and have managed so far with
only a few pip installs.


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Best practise for managing Conda environments? Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2026-09-21 09:17 +0000
  Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-21 17:32 +0800
    Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2026-09-21 20:33 +0000
      Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2026-09-21 22:05 +0000
        Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-22 14:37 +0800
          Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-22 07:33 +0000
          Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2026-09-22 09:08 +0000
            Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-22 22:53 +0800
  Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-22 15:08 +0800
  Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-22 07:44 +0000
    Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> - 2026-09-22 10:14 +0200
  Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2026-09-22 19:53 +0000
    Re: Best practise for managing Conda environments? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-23 04:57 +0800
      Formatting (was: Best practise for managing Conda environments?) ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-23 08:17 +0000
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          Re: Formatting ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-23 12:42 +0000
            Re: Formatting ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-23 14:43 +0000
              Re: Formatting ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-23 15:01 +0000
          Re: Formatting ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-23 13:38 +0000
        Re: Formatting (was: Best practise for managing Conda environments?) Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2026-09-24 08:31 +0000
          Re: Formatting (was: Best practise for managing Conda environments?) Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2026-09-25 08:53 +0000

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