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On Nov 23, 2014 4:41 PM, "Gregory Ewing" <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz>
wrote:
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> Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> Just out of curiosity, why does the stdlib need modules for
>> manipulating .wav and other sound files, but we have to go to PyPI to
>> get a PostgreSQL client?
>
>
> I suspect it's mainly for historical reasons. The wave
> module has been around since the very early days of
> Python when the stldib was smaller and the barrier
> to entry was lower. By today's standards, it probably
> wouldn't make it in.

Size may also be a factor. The wave module is around 300 lines of Python
code and isn't growing. The typical dbapi module is probably a bit larger.

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  Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-16 16:16 +1100
  Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2014-11-21 10:14 +1000
    Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-21 11:31 +1100
    Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-11-20 19:53 -0800
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        Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-11-21 07:52 -0800
          Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-11-21 10:12 -0600
          Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-11-21 10:42 -0700
      Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-11-21 06:32 -0500
      Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-11-21 08:33 -0700
        Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-11-21 10:24 -0800
          Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-22 05:34 +1100
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            Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-11-21 12:29 -0800
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          Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-11-21 12:23 -0700
            Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-11-21 14:25 -0800
              Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-11-21 15:21 -0800
                Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-22 10:52 +1100
                Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-11-21 17:07 -0800
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                Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-11-22 02:27 -0700
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                Re: Import a module from a specific file path Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-11-22 17:46 +1100
              Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-11-21 17:32 -0700
                Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-11-21 17:48 -0800
          Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-11-21 15:38 -0500
        Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-11-22 23:25 +1100
          Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-23 00:00 +1100
            Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-11-23 17:30 +1100
              Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-11-22 22:44 -0800
              Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-23 17:56 +1100
              Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-23 17:59 +1100
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                Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-11-23 22:25 -0800
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                Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-11-24 08:51 -0800
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                Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-11-24 15:34 -0700
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              Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-23 18:51 +1100
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              Re: PyWart: "Python's import statement and the history of external dependencies" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-24 03:36 +1100
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