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Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time)

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Date Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:18:18 +1100
Subject Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time)
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On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote:
> Yes, people call strings "Unicdoe strings" because Python2 *did have*
> unicode strings separate from regular strings:
>
>     Python2            Python3
>     --------------------------------------
>     string             bytes (byte string)
>     unicode string     string
>
>
> In Python2 days, Unicode was a fancy, exotic datatype for the
> connoisseurs. The rest used strings. Python3 supposedly elevates Unicode
> to boring normalcy. Now it's bytes that have fallen into (unmerited)
> disfavor.

Py3's byte strings are still strings, though. People don't use
bytearray for everything.

ChrisA

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Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-11-20 09:51 -0700
  Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-11-20 20:56 +0200
    Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-21 10:49 +1100
      Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-11-21 08:36 +0200
        Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-21 18:02 +1100
          Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-11-21 09:14 +0200
            Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-21 18:29 +1100
              Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-11-21 10:16 +0200
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-21 19:24 +1100
        Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-11-21 08:03 -0800
          Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-11-21 18:36 +0200
            Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-22 03:52 +1100
            Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-11-22 15:38 +1100
              Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-11-22 08:40 +0200
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-11-23 00:50 +1100
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-23 01:17 +1100
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-11-22 16:18 +0200
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-11-22 09:44 -0500
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-11-22 16:56 +0200
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-11-22 07:44 -0800
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-11-22 07:57 -0800
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-11-22 19:49 +0200
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-11-22 18:17 +0000
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-11-22 11:32 -0800
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-11-22 11:17 -0800
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-23 07:17 +1100
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-11-22 22:04 +0000
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-23 09:31 +1100
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-11-22 23:38 +0000
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-11-23 04:52 -0800
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) random832@fastmail.us - 2014-11-22 20:52 -0500
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-23 13:11 +1100
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) random832@fastmail.us - 2014-11-22 22:10 -0500
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-11-23 11:33 -0500
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-24 03:39 +1100
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) random832@fastmail.us - 2014-11-23 13:13 -0500
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2014-11-23 15:31 -0500
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-24 09:22 +1100
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-11-23 20:24 -0500
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) random832@fastmail.us - 2014-11-24 00:05 -0500
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-11-24 11:51 +1300
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-24 09:59 +1100
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-11-24 08:57 +0200
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-24 18:18 +1100
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-11-24 09:40 +0200
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-11-25 09:56 +1100
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-25 10:08 +1100
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-11-25 08:23 +0200
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-11-25 22:56 +1100
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-26 00:07 +1100
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-11-25 06:26 -0800
              Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) random832@fastmail.us - 2014-11-22 20:35 -0500
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-11-23 17:17 +1100
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-23 17:37 +1100
                Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-11-23 07:40 -0800
    Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-11-21 11:32 +1100
      Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-21 12:10 +1100
        Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-11-22 02:23 +1100
          Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-22 02:40 +1100
          Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-11-21 10:00 -0600
      Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) random832@fastmail.us - 2014-11-20 20:31 -0500
      Re: python 2.7 and unicode (one more time) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-21 12:39 +1100

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