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| From | Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.misc |
| Subject | Re: 100 Things |
| Date | 2014-05-01 21:02 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <bsegt5Fd2otU7@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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BartC wrote: > > > "Ian Collins" <ian-news@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:bsdn38Fd2otU3@mid.individual.net... >> BartC wrote: >>> >>> As for C being minimalist, I don't know if a language needing these types >>> and macros (remembering to substitute all the combinations of 8 16, 32 >>> and >>> 64 every time you see N): >> >> <snip long list> >> >> Give a lowish level language such as C works "close to the metal" on a >> wide variety of hardware, how would you avoid having a collection of fixed >> width types? > > You don't avoid having the range of different types (you need many of those > anyway have a flexible set of types for storing data). But there are elegant > ways of doing it without having sprawling lists of macros and typedefs. > > For example, if T is any primitive type, then T:n could define a version > which is n bits wide. So you substitute an underscore for a colon? What about the least and fast types? The former don't appear very often, but the latter are very useful. >> I agree there's a better way of (but not within the limits of C) to >> specify the limits, but they require some form of generics (such as C++ >> std::numeric_limits). > > If T is a numeric type, then T'min and T'max could give you the lower and > upper limits (as could T'bounds, giving a range type). And you can write > X'min etc when you have an expression. > > You don't need exotic things such as generics. (I know the point of C++ is > apparently as a tool to build your own language, but when some feature is a > morning's work on a compiler, then that's a far simpler route.) Generics save you from having to extend the language. -- Ian Collins
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Re: 100 Things "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2014-05-02 11:22 +0200
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Re: 100 Things "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-05-01 16:08 -0400
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