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Re: Resources to learn common lisp?

From Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.lisp, comp.lang.misc, comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Resources to learn common lisp?
Date 2026-08-25 22:13 -0700
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tfb <tfb@work.it.out> writes:
> There would probably be some extremists who would say, well, if only
> everyone saw and understood the blinding light of (Python|Ruby|Lisp)
> then they would achieve true happiness.

The Blub fallacy.  Yes it applies to CL just like to anything else.

> It should be possible to write functions in an existing language which
> map constructs expressing that new (or borrowed) idea into the
> existing language.  Those functions have a name: macros.

Meh, if the old language can express the new idea at all, then the new
idea isn't that big of a change.  Like try implementing Scheme
continuations as macros in CL.

There's a theoretical paper by Felleisen about what really adds
expressive power to programming languages.  Sadly, I don't understand
it, but maybe someday.

https://www2.ccs.neu.edu/racket/pubs/scp91-felleisen.pdf

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Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:38 +0800
  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 12:22 +0000
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 21:04 +0800
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 13:18 +0000
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 22:16 +0800
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 20:10 +0000
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-25 10:34 +0800
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-24 17:10 -0700
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-25 10:41 +0800
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-25 09:22 +0000
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-25 22:13 -0700
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-26 15:43 -0300
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-26 18:23 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-28 17:29 -0300
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-27 10:17 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-27 10:47 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Johann \"Myrkraverk\" Oskarsson" <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-18 10:49 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-18 10:25 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Johann \"Myrkraverk\" Oskarsson" <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-18 11:05 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? red floyd <no.spam.here@its.invalid> - 2026-09-17 21:43 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-18 10:28 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-18 21:33 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-18 13:51 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-18 14:23 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-18 15:18 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Johann \"Myrkraverk\" Oskarsson" <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-19 00:07 +0800
                Resources to learn Japanese (was: Resources to learn common lisp?) ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-18 16:52 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-09-18 15:11 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-18 15:25 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-09-18 15:49 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-18 16:05 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-09-19 08:29 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Johann \"Myrkraverk\" Oskarsson" <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-19 16:50 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-09-18 18:18 +0200
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Johann \"Myrkraverk\" Oskarsson" <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-19 00:35 +0800
                Why no string switch? (was: Resources to learn common lisp?) ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-19 12:46 +0000
                Re: Why no string switch? (was: Resources to learn common lisp?) boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-09-19 14:47 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Johann \"Myrkraverk\" Oskarsson" <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-18 23:39 +0800

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