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Re: Resources to learn common lisp?

From tfb <tfb@work.it.out>
Newsgroups comp.lang.lisp, comp.lang.misc, comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Resources to learn common lisp?
Date 2026-08-25 09:22 +0000
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oPaul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 
> Fluency does matter.

Absolutely so.  Interestingly it's possible to not be fluent in languages
(or language constructs) that you've designed: after Zyni and I wrote Štar
(an iteration construct for CL), it took me months to become comfortable
enough in it to use it to the exclusion of most of the standard ones.  Some
of this was worry about how large the support for it was (entirely silly on
modern systems) and performance (we had benchmarks, but somehow these
didn't help convince me), but part of it was just 'how do I get it to do
that, erm ...'.

> 
> If fluency in a language lets me do most of my daily tasks with at most
> occasional inconvenience, I'd call the language satisfactory.  Stuff
> like macros make inconvenient things convenient.  They don't make the
> impossible possible.  And if the language makes enough everyday things
> convenient, it's ok with me if some inconvenient ones are left over.
> 
> So I haven't felt lack of macros to be a serious shortcoming of non-Lisp
> languages.  There are usually alternate mechanisms offered, like
> function decorators in Python.
> 

And that's fine.  There are people for whom Fortran (I mean FORTRAN,
probably, because modern Fortran is a large and flexible language only
really related to anything older than Fortran 90 by some backward
compatibility) is a language in which they are fluent and who feel no need
for any other language.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

But if I asserted that nobody should want a language other than FORTRAN,
that would probably be something quite a lot of people would take issue
with.  And they would be right.

If I asserted that *any single* programming language should be something
every person is comfortable with then I think people would take issue with
that, as well.  There would probably be some extremists who would say,
well, if only everyone saw and understood the blinding light of
(Python|Ruby|Lisp) then they would achieve true happiness.  But those
people are pushing what is essentially a cult.  And empirically those
people are just wrong: if they were right, why are there so many
programming languages?  Why are there both Python cultists and Ruby
cultists if there is more than one true language?  Do we need some kind of
purge of the nonbelievers?

Well, perhaps there is some finite and fairly small set of languages that
would meet everyone's requirements for comfort?  If that were so, why do
people endlessly invent new ones?  If there is a finite set, we're clearly
not close to reaching it yet.

I suggest that the set of languages which would mean *everyone* was
comfortable is not usefully finite.  If  hardware architecture was
unchanging and there was a fixed set of problem domains it conceivably
might be, but neither of those things is true.  Modern Fortran has grown
all sorts of new constructs designed to deal with what modern
supercomputers look like, for instance.

Language exploration and modification therefore matters.  It may not matter
for you, or for me: we may be fluent in and comfortable with our fixed
languages (they might even be the same language).  But *that means
nothing*: it still matters.

And (this is the contentious bit): I think that, since it matters, removing
barriers to it also matters.  It will never be easy, but it shouldn't
require designing a whole new language to explore one idea.  It should be
possible to write functions in an existing language which map constructs
expressing that new (or borrowed) idea into the existing language.  Those
functions have a name: macros.  You may not want to use them: that is not
an argument that they are not useful to other people, and to pretend it is
would be as grotesquely arrogant as if I was to say that because *I* have
no use for a church it should be demolished.


-- 
tfeb.org/computer/

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                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-11 14:55 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 08:42 +0100
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-05 11:02 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-06 01:10 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-06 05:21 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-07-07 11:52 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-07-08 01:46 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-08 03:04 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-07 19:30 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-07 19:34 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-03 22:03 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 05:44 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-04 03:21 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-04 23:22 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 09:15 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-11 16:04 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-13 12:12 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-13 14:59 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-18 14:15 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 08:23 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 10:02 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:58 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 23:53 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-17 05:55 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-17 01:43 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-18 01:07 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:58 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:52 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-20 00:04 +0000
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-11 06:37 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:30 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 00:58 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-14 01:46 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-15 06:59 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-15 12:25 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 07:47 +0000
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 17:42 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-12 00:16 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:34 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-13 00:11 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-13 04:06 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:37 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-13 21:25 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 15:26 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 05:37 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-15 01:34 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-15 05:43 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-15 11:23 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-16 00:23 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-06-16 03:29 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-16 04:59 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-16 15:10 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 22:42 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-29 06:01 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:12 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-02 00:35 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 15:53 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 13:34 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 22:41 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-28 20:31 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 20:04 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 17:44 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 08:36 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 01:43 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-14 10:36 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 23:55 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-14 18:04 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-16 12:33 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 02:56 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-27 20:25 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 23:37 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-28 16:55 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 08:41 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 00:44 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-06-29 07:33 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 00:30 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:08 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:53 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:22 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 22:00 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-05 22:34 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-08 22:05 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:42 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-10 01:48 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 21:18 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 11:19 +0100
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-11 10:00 -0300
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 18:31 +0100
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 19:35 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 20:56 +0100
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 20:21 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 22:44 +0100
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 22:50 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 01:35 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-12 16:28 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-13 05:03 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-14 07:14 +0100
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-14 06:47 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:33 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 11:42 -0300
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-13 15:39 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 16:52 -0300
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 05:04 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-14 08:16 -0300
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-14 00:11 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-13 17:16 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 10:27 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-13 20:35 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-14 08:04 -0300
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-13 23:58 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-14 09:27 +0100
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 23:35 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 18:35 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-11 21:14 +0100
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-11 21:01 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-22 23:48 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 01:20 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-12 09:12 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 21:23 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 21:26 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 01:19 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 16:25 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 23:30 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-12 16:52 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 17:53 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-08-24 09:46 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-11 20:39 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-12 23:23 +0100
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-08-10 15:05 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-08 22:00 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-08-08 14:14 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-09 20:34 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-08 14:45 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 02:18 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:47 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-11 11:38 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-13 18:59 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-15 21:12 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-14 08:20 -0300
                Names for GenAI (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 13:30 +0100
                Re: Names for GenAI ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-14 12:49 +0000
                Re: Names for GenAI Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 13:56 -0300
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-29 16:16 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-29 13:46 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-06-30 17:15 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-03 04:07 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 12:26 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-11 16:06 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-11 15:03 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-13 12:12 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-13 15:55 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-13 20:37 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:18 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-29 22:06 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:15 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-07-30 21:05 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-31 08:01 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-04 22:08 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-05 11:29 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-05 23:46 +0530
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 19:41 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-08-10 14:44 +0200
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-07-09 12:31 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 16:21 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-31 07:17 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-07-31 12:21 -0300
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-01 01:48 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-05 13:13 -0300
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 21:48 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-08-06 09:05 +0200
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 11:33 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-06 15:49 -0300
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-06 20:23 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-07 09:36 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-07 11:58 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-08-08 19:02 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:59 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:23 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 21:59 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 08:56 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 08:57 +0000
                Reader macros (was: Resources to learn common lisp?) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-08-09 11:51 -0400
                Re: Reader macros Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-10 00:48 -0700
                Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 05:33 +0800
                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-10 01:11 -0700
                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-08-10 14:57 +0000
                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 13:10 -0700
                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-10 17:41 -0300
                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-10 23:53 +0000
                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-08-11 14:29 +0000
                kqueues and port_create() (was: Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:51 +0800
                Re: kqueues and port_create() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-11 20:59 -0700
                Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 13:07 +0800
                Re: kqueues and port_create() Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-08-12 03:23 -0400
                Re: kqueues and port_create() Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:50 +0000
                Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:33 +0800
                Re: kqueues and port_create() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-12 02:22 -0700
                Re: kqueues and port_create() Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-08-12 20:55 -0400
                Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:37 +0800
                Re: kqueues and port_create() "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-12 12:59 -0700
                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:26 +0100
                D.N.S. in Common Lisp (was: Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:59 +0800
                Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-12 09:01 -0300
                Making production games in Common Lisp (was: Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:20 +0800
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-12 20:46 -0700
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 14:28 +0800
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp bixbox <noreply@example.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:46 +0200
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 12:19 -0300
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:24 +0800
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-13 17:39 +0000
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 20:58 -0300
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 13:42 +0800
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:46 +0100
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 15:29 -0300
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-13 17:31 -0700
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 14:04 +0800
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:52 -0700
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 10:27 +0000
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-15 01:19 +0800
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp (was: Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-13 16:14 +0000
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 01:31 +0800
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:52 +0100
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 12:30 +0000
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-15 01:33 +0800
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp (was: Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-15 19:44 -0400
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 15:06 -0300
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-22 02:28 +0800
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-21 15:23 -0400
                Databases with Common Lisp (was: Re: Making production games in Common Lisp) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-22 07:54 +0800
                Re: Databases with Common Lisp (was: Re: Making production games in Common Lisp) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-22 18:13 -0400
                Re: Databases with Common Lisp steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-23 15:58 -0400
                Dynamic scoping (was: Databases with Common Lisp) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-08-23 23:08 -0400
                Re: Dynamic scoping (was: Databases with Common Lisp) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-24 10:24 -0400
                Re: Dynamic scoping (was: Databases with Common Lisp) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 19:29 +0000
                Re: Dynamic scoping Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-25 10:26 +0800
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-23 21:03 +0530
                Re: Making production games in Common Lisp George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-24 01:42 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-06 18:05 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 05:26 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-08 18:37 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-09 08:52 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-09 11:50 +0100
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 23:01 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 19:09 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:23 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:23 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-09 20:36 +0000
                What do you need from S.B.C.L? (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-10 05:32 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 19:02 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-10 00:56 +0100
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:30 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-12 16:31 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 17:07 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-12 17:20 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-14 14:28 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-10 00:54 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-08-11 20:20 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-11 20:51 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 21:35 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-18 21:34 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-21 02:12 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-21 12:28 -0300
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 09:17 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-12 15:52 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 03:27 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 12:16 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:03 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 08:46 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:38 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 12:22 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 21:04 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 13:18 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 22:16 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 20:10 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-25 10:34 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-24 17:10 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-25 10:41 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-25 09:22 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-25 22:13 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-26 11:33 +0530
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-26 15:43 -0300
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-26 18:23 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-26 19:06 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-08-24 13:19 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 20:37 +0000
                Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-14 12:51 +0000
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:08 -0700
                Re: Macros Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 10:01 +0100
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-08-15 12:58 +0000
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 15:27 -0300
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-26 00:56 -0700
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-26 19:55 -0300
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 11:08 +0000
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:41 +0800
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 12:31 +0000
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-24 09:56 -0400
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 19:29 +0000
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-24 16:35 -0300
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 15:26 -0300
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-22 00:00 +0000
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-22 01:23 +0000
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-22 12:07 +0000
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-22 22:24 +0000
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-22 23:08 +0000
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-22 23:22 +0000
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-23 00:23 +0000
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-25 00:13 +0000
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 10:17 +0000
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:45 +0800
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 12:49 +0000
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-08-24 18:34 -0400
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-25 07:54 +0000
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-26 07:47 +0530
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-26 02:58 +0000
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 10:17 +0000
                Re: Macros (was Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-23 15:47 -0400
                Re: Macros Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-23 21:57 +0100
                Re: Macros Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-23 22:21 +0000
                Re: Macros Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:49 +0800

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