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Re: Resources to learn common lisp?

From Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.lisp, comp.lang.misc, comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Resources to learn common lisp?
Date 2026-08-24 17:10 -0700
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <87tsojm54k.fsf@nightsong.com> (permalink)
References (16 earlier) <116h0dv$2m9e2$1@dont-email.me> <m3WiS.4$UB1.1@fx15.ams4> <116hd1l$2qooi$1@dont-email.me> <LjXiS.420440$nUE4.251963@fx07.ams4> <116hgb5$2s4uh$1@dont-email.me>

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tfb <tfb@work.it.out> writes:
> Do you really think that a thread about language extensibility and whether
> any given language could have enough co structs to satisfy all posdible
> users of that language had suddenly changed topic to how familiar an
> individual was with a given language?  

Fluency does matter.

If fluency in a language lets me do most of my daily tasks with at most
occasional inconvenience, I'd call the language satisfactory.  Stuff
like macros make inconvenient things convenient.  They don't make the
impossible possible.  And if the language makes enough everyday things
convenient, it's ok with me if some inconvenient ones are left over.

So I haven't felt lack of macros to be a serious shortcoming of non-Lisp
languages.  There are usually alternate mechanisms offered, like
function decorators in Python.

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Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 19:38 +0800
  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 12:22 +0000
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 21:04 +0800
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 13:18 +0000
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-24 22:16 +0800
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-24 20:10 +0000
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-25 10:34 +0800
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-24 17:10 -0700
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-25 10:41 +0800
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-25 09:22 +0000
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-25 22:13 -0700
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-26 15:43 -0300
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-26 18:23 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-28 17:29 -0300
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-27 10:17 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-27 10:47 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Johann \"Myrkraverk\" Oskarsson" <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-18 10:49 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-18 10:25 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Johann \"Myrkraverk\" Oskarsson" <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-18 11:05 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? red floyd <no.spam.here@its.invalid> - 2026-09-17 21:43 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-18 10:28 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-18 21:33 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-18 13:51 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-18 14:23 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-18 15:18 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Johann \"Myrkraverk\" Oskarsson" <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-19 00:07 +0800
                Resources to learn Japanese (was: Resources to learn common lisp?) ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-18 16:52 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-09-18 15:11 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-18 15:25 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-09-18 15:49 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-18 16:05 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-09-19 08:29 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Johann \"Myrkraverk\" Oskarsson" <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-19 16:50 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-09-18 18:18 +0200
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Johann \"Myrkraverk\" Oskarsson" <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-19 00:35 +0800
                Why no string switch? (was: Resources to learn common lisp?) ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-19 12:46 +0000
                Re: Why no string switch? (was: Resources to learn common lisp?) boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-09-19 14:47 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Johann \"Myrkraverk\" Oskarsson" <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-18 23:39 +0800

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