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On 02/05/2016 19:48, Scott Sauyet wrote:
> Stefan Weiss wrote:
>> Scott Sauyet wrote:
>>> [ ... ] It's not too strange to assume that a (finite) set can 
>>> be iterated.  Of course this makes no sense at all for an 
>>> uncountably infinite set.
>>
>> Or even countably infinite :)
> 
> Ahh, but here's where a little mathematical background was required.
> 
> :-)
> 
> `countably infinite` means in essence that it is of the same size as
> the set of natural numbers.  (And same size means that there is a
> 1 - 1 mapping between them.)  A countably infinite set can be iterated,
> but you'll never finish.  That's one way to think of streams.

If finishing is not important, I can iterate over ℝ (uncountably
infinite) just as well as over ℕ (countably infinite): I start with 1,
2, 3... etc; when I get to the end of the natural numbers, I'll just go
the opposite direction.
Kidding aside, you were talking about using storage mechanisms in sets
for iteration. I think that for this purpose, any size of infinity is
large enough.

>> I recently read Logicomix, a fascinating graphic novel about the
>> search for the foundations of mathematics, loosely based on
>> Russel's life.
> 
> Sounds fun.  Was Kurt Gödel the arch-villain, destroying everything our
> brave hero tried to build?  :-)

Pretty much, in the end. It felt like a bit of an anticlimax, even
though the outcome was inevitable. Gödel presents his proof in front of
an auditorium including Hilbert and Russell, and von Neumann mutters
"It's all over" (this never actually happened, but it might have, and
the authors fully acknowledge taking some artistic licence here and
there). I also got the impression that the real hidden killer was
insanity - it's surprising how many of the mathematicians involved in
this lost their minds.

Logicomix is worth a read, if you like this kind of story telling. I
thought I'd stumbled across an obscure gem when I found it in a
bookstore in Vienna, but apparently it made #1 on the New York Times
bestseller list for graphic novels at some point. It's not 100%
historically accurate, and some of the more advanced concepts are
simplified, but overall I was deeply impressed by how the authors
managed to transform such an abstract topic into an enjoyable story.


- stefan

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passing a set of numbers to a function Matheus Suffi <matheus.suffi40@gmail.com> - 2016-01-25 04:45 -0800
  Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-01-25 10:51 -0300
  Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-01-29 03:57 +0100
    Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2016-01-28 23:19 -0800
      Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-01-29 10:09 +0000
        Re: passing a set of numbers to a function John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-01-29 10:20 +0000
          Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-01-29 12:23 +0000
            Re: passing a set of numbers to a function John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-01-29 14:50 +0000
              Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-01-29 16:11 +0000
                Re: passing a set of numbers to a function John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-01-30 10:10 +0000
          Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 08:35 -0800
            Re: passing a set of numbers to a function John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-01-30 10:34 +0000
              Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 18:53 -0800
                Re: passing a set of numbers to a function John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-01-31 14:50 +0000
                Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 09:56 -0800
                Re: passing a set of numbers to a function John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-02-01 11:02 +0000
                Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 18:10 -0800
        Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-29 09:38 -0800
          Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-01-29 20:17 +0000
        Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-01-29 20:08 +0100
    Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-01-29 10:32 -0300
      Re: passing a set of numbers to a function "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-01-29 14:53 +0100
        Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 06:26 -0800
    Re: passing a set of numbers to a function John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-01-29 14:19 +0000
      Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 08:38 -0800
        Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-01-29 13:54 -0300
          Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 10:11 -0800
            Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-01-29 15:38 -0300
            Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@geostat.dk> - 2016-01-29 20:13 +0100
              Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-01-29 20:46 +0100
                Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-01-29 16:59 -0300
          Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Erwin Moller <erwinmollerusenet@xs4all.nl> - 2016-02-12 12:03 +0100
  Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-02 11:18 +0100
    Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-02-02 12:31 -0300
    Re: passing a set of numbers to a function John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-02-04 10:42 +0000
      Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-02-04 15:38 +0000
        Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-04 17:33 +0100
          Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 16:19 -0800
            Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 14:06 +0100
              Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 05:45 -0800
                Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-02-05 14:34 +0000
                Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-02-05 15:42 +0000
                Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 16:04 +0100
                Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 10:48 -0800
                Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 04:50 +0100
                Re: passing a set of numbers to a function "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2016-02-06 10:05 -0800
                Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 23:30 +0100
                Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 17:32 -0800
              Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-02-05 14:13 +0000
                Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-02-05 17:15 +0000
            Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 05:19 -0800
              Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-02-05 13:43 +0000
                Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 06:08 -0800
        Re: passing a set of numbers to a function Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-02-04 20:25 +0000
        Re: passing a set of numbers to a function John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-02-05 10:51 +0000

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