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Re: "The this value" (Was: onclick=function(){obj.meth()})

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From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Reply-To Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <cljs@PointedEars.de>
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Subject Re: "The this value" (Was: onclick=function(){obj.meth()})
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Stefan Weiss wrote:

> On 2012-02-21 13:44, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Stefan Weiss wrote:
>>> I could be mistaken about the details, but I'm too lazy to look it up
>>> now (it's late, and the wine was good).
>> It would appear to be prudent if one, in good scientific tradition,
>> refrained from making claims that one is unable or unwilling to
>> substantiate.
> 
> Where do you think you are, the Royal Society? A simple correction would
> have been enough, but you chose to ignore four hints at uncertainty
> ("IIRC"; "could be mistaken"; didn't look it up; had wine) to
> pontificate about scientific tradition. Get a life.

I daresay you would not have corrected yourself later.  If I had not taken 
the time for a correction, and nobody else would have tested or corrected 
you, the false claim would still be there.  Making such claims is ultimately 
harmful, in particular for beginners, and should be avoided.

It is particularly illogical of you to make such a claim on the grounds of 
unwillingness ("lazy") or an unfit condition ("the wine was good").  For you 
can make *and* substantiate the claim *later* when you are willing and fit 
for an answer (no matter if the reasoning for the claim turns out to be 
correct or not).


PointedEars
-- 
Prototype.js was written by people who don't know javascript for people
who don't know javascript. People who don't know javascript are not
the best source of advice on designing systems that use javascript.
  -- Richard Cornford, cljs, <f806at$ail$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>

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onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Puzzled <scratching.head@example.com> - 2012-02-20 14:02 -0500
  Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} "Tom de Neef" <tdeneef@qolor.nl> - 2012-02-20 20:20 +0100
    Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Jake Jarvis <pig_in_shoes@yahoo.com> - 2012-02-20 20:39 +0100
      Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} "Richard Cornford" <Richard@litotes.demon.co.uk> - 2012-02-21 00:34 +0000
        Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2012-02-21 02:13 +0100
          Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Richard Cornford <Richard@litotes.demon.co.uk> - 2012-02-21 04:05 -0800
        Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-02-21 12:47 +0100
          Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2012-02-21 15:59 +0000
  Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2012-02-20 21:09 +0100
    Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2012-02-20 20:29 +0000
      Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Puzzled <scratching.head@example.com> - 2012-02-20 16:50 -0500
        Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2012-02-21 11:33 +0000
    Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Puzzled <scratching.head@example.com> - 2012-02-20 15:47 -0500
      Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Jake Jarvis <pig_in_shoes@yahoo.com> - 2012-02-20 22:38 +0100
        Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Puzzled <scratching.head@example.com> - 2012-02-20 17:12 -0500
      Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-02-20 14:04 -0800
        "The this value" (Was: onclick=function(){obj.meth()}) Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2012-02-21 01:37 +0100
          Re: "The this value" (Was: onclick=function(){obj.meth()}) Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-02-20 17:20 -0800
          Re: "The this value" (Was: onclick=function(){obj.meth()}) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-02-21 13:44 +0100
            Re: "The this value" (Was: onclick=function(){obj.meth()}) Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2012-02-21 22:31 +0100
              Re: "The this value" (Was: onclick=function(){obj.meth()}) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-02-22 10:55 +0100
                Re: "The this value" (Was: onclick=function(){obj.meth()}) John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2012-02-22 15:58 +0000
        Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} "Richard Cornford" <Richard@litotes.demon.co.uk> - 2012-02-21 01:30 +0000
      Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2012-02-20 13:43 -0800
      Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2012-02-20 23:17 +0100
        Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Puzzled <scratching.head@example.com> - 2012-02-20 17:48 -0500
          Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2012-02-21 00:57 +0100
          Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} "Richard Cornford" <Richard@litotes.demon.co.uk> - 2012-02-21 01:03 +0000
            Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-02-20 19:05 -0800
              Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Richard Cornford <Richard@litotes.demon.co.uk> - 2012-02-21 04:14 -0800
                Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-02-21 13:54 +0100
                Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-02-21 10:17 -0800
                Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2012-02-21 11:57 -0800
                Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-02-21 13:39 -0800
                Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2012-02-22 05:07 -0800
            Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-02-21 12:58 +0100
        Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} "Richard Cornford" <Richard@litotes.demon.co.uk> - 2012-02-21 00:45 +0000
          Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2012-02-21 02:22 +0100
        Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Puzzled <scratching.head@example.com> - 2012-02-21 08:12 -0500
          Re: onclick=function(){obj.meth()} Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2012-02-21 11:14 -0800

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