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Libraries (was: How difficult would it be to create simple autosuggest?)

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From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Organization PointedEars Software (PES)
Date 2012-09-20 02:57 +0200
Subject Libraries (was: How difficult would it be to create simple autosuggest?)
Newsgroups comp.lang.javascript
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David Mark wrote:

> "Scott Sauyet" wrote:
>> Andrew Poulos wrote:
>> > S.T. wrote:
>> >> By the way, this newsgroup is exceptionally (read: fanatically)
>> >> anti-jQuery and it's siblings. By referencing jQuery its only a matter
>> >> of time until the loons emerge. If the links I provided don't suffice,
>> >> unless you want to code this up from scratch without using one of the
>> >> popular libraries you'll be better served asking on Stack Overflow or,
>> >> if you would prefer a bit more casual format, maybe on Reddit:
>> >> http://www.reddit.com/r/jquery
>> > 
>> > Its a pretty sad way to defend your support of jq. If you'd left off
>> > the last paragraph I would've thought your post well considered.
>>
>> I almost agree.  This is overblown and less than helpful.  But even the
>> FAQ does point people interested in the popular libraries to the
>> libraries' sites.  It's clear that for the most part questions about how
>> to use these libraries are not well-received on comp.lang.javascript.
> 
> And why should they be? The newsgroup is about the JS language and
> browser scripting in general. How to use method "xyz" of popular
> library "abc" is beyond the scope of this forum (and generally a waste
> of time as they change them every other week).

I have come to question that approach; not only because I happen to be a 
library author myself.  It is not typical for other programming newsgroups.  
There is no logical reason why libraries written in ECMAScript 
implementations – whereas I would like to define a "library" as a set of 
reusable features in one or more external resources – should not be 
discussed here, but elsewhere, often in substandard communication media.

In fact, I welcome discussions about those libraries here, in this newsgroup 
where the people with arguably the most in-depth knowledge about the 
languages and related APIs are subscribed to.  If done with reason, this way 
the flaws of a library and the benefits of one library over another in a 
specific area can be highlighted, and – in time – overall knowledge and code 
quality can be improved.

What is not acceptable, though, is asking a question without having tried to 
identify and solve the underlying problem first.  And it should not be at 
all surprising that such teenage attempts at wasting the free time of others 
are met with scorn.


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How difficult would it be to create simple autosuggest? justaguy <lichunshen84@gmail.com> - 2012-09-17 11:23 -0700
  Re: How difficult would it be to create simple autosuggest? "S.T." <anon@anon.com> - 2012-09-17 13:52 -0700
    Re: How difficult would it be to create simple autosuggest? Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2012-09-18 08:36 +1000
      Re: How difficult would it be to create simple autosuggest? "S.T." <anon@anon.com> - 2012-09-17 16:24 -0700
        Re: How difficult would it be to create simple autosuggest? David Mark <dmark.cinsoft@gmail.com> - 2012-09-17 20:29 -0700
        Re: How difficult would it be to create simple autosuggest? Adam Silver <adambsilver@gmail.com> - 2012-09-19 00:48 -0700
          Re: How difficult would it be to create simple autosuggest? "S.T." <anon@anon.com> - 2012-09-19 12:43 -0700
            Re: How difficult would it be to create simple autosuggest? David Mark <dmark.cinsoft@gmail.com> - 2012-09-20 11:09 -0700
      Re: How difficult would it be to create simple autosuggest? David Mark <dmark.cinsoft@gmail.com> - 2012-09-17 20:21 -0700
      Re: How difficult would it be to create simple autosuggest? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-09-18 16:49 +0200
        Re: How difficult would it be to create simple autosuggest? David Mark <dmark.cinsoft@gmail.com> - 2012-09-18 12:49 -0700
      Re: How difficult would it be to create simple autosuggest? "Scott Sauyet" <3103invalid@webnews.fastusenet.org> - 2012-09-19 12:29 +0000
        Re: How difficult would it be to create simple autosuggest? David Mark <dmark.cinsoft@gmail.com> - 2012-09-19 05:44 -0700
          Libraries (was: How difficult would it be to create simple autosuggest?) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-09-20 02:57 +0200
            Re: Libraries (was: How difficult would it be to create simple autosuggest?) David Mark <dmark.cinsoft@gmail.com> - 2012-09-19 18:14 -0700
            Re: Libraries (was: How difficult would it be to create simple autosuggest?) Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2012-09-20 07:26 -0700
              Re: Libraries Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-09-20 17:27 +0200
                Re: Libraries Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2012-09-20 10:48 -0700
        Re: How difficult would it be to create simple autosuggest? "S.T." <anon@anon.com> - 2012-09-19 12:00 -0700

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