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Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes

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On 12/21/2013 03:35 PM, lipska the kat wrote:
> On 21/12/13 18:52, Arved Sandstrom wrote:
>> On 12/21/2013 07:54 AM, lipska the kat wrote:
>>> On 21/12/13 02:28, Arved Sandstrom wrote:
>>>> On 12/17/2013 03:09 PM, Wanja Gayk wrote:
>>>>> In article <g4nru.546685$nC5.145367@fx06.iad>, Arved Sandstrom
>>>>> (asandstrom2@eastlink.ca) says...
>>>>>
>>>>>> No aspersion on the M-F 9-5 programmers, Arne. But by definition M-F
>>>>>> 9-5
>>>>>> programmers have made a decision - not something I will heavily
>>>>>> criticize - to confine their work to work hours, and keep their free
>>>>>> time for family and leisure. As such they don't spend nearly as much
>>>>>> time on off-hours professional education (if any), and we all know
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> work hours don't lend themselves to professional education either.
>>>>>
>>>>> To put it bluntly, this is nonsense. You can't generalize like that.
>>>>
>>>> Sure I can generalize like that. When I refer to a programmer as a M-F
>>>> 9-5 programmer, it's not a slur, it's a straightforward definition of a
>>>> programmer who only practices his trade M-F 9-5.
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Who works 9-5?
>
> <snip>
>
>>> 9-5 developers?
>>> No such thing.
>>>
>>>
>> Then you've certainly not ever been in a union, for starters. :-)
>>
>> And you've evidently never worked in a private sector company (like IBM
>> or Oracle or Microsoft, for example, or well-established local software
>> consultancies with lucrative long-term contracts) where usually the only
>> reason you work outside hours is because you're self-motivated, not
>> because anyone required you to do so.
>
> I did work for a large company once. Company car, company mobile,
> company laptop ... multiple layers of management, bored stiff.
>
> Start-ups was my thing. Design, prototype, implement, launch, get bored,
> move on.
>
> How can you be a developer without being self-motivated?
>

Hey, I'm with you here. Software development for me is not just a job, 
and my bookshelves, professional activities, and the occasional 
irritation of my wife prove it. Actually, the fact that I have been in 
this NG so long must mean something...seeing as how way less than one 
hundredth of one percent of Java developers engage in earnest discourse 
in Usenet Java programming groups. :-)

I'm not quite at the startup stage anymore...I've been through two that 
failed terribly, and several others that have survived but are probably 
not poised for IPOs or buyouts by IBM. You get to a certain age and you 
enjoy a bit of stability.

AHS
-- 
When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign:
that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
-- Jonathan Swift

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Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes Sebastian <news@seyweiler.dyndns.org> - 2013-12-04 20:07 +0100
  Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes Sven Köhler <remove-sven.koehler@gmail.com> - 2013-12-04 22:27 +0200
    Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes Patrick Roemer <sangamon@netcologne.de> - 2013-12-05 00:38 +0100
    Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes v_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert) - 2013-12-04 23:45 +0000
  Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2013-12-06 13:28 -0800
    Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-12-14 16:46 -0500
  Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-12-14 03:13 -0400
    Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2013-12-14 12:03 +0000
      Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-12-14 17:02 -0500
        Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-12-15 14:33 -0400
    Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-12-14 17:00 -0500
      Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-12-15 15:05 -0400
        Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes Wanja Gayk <brixomatic@yahoo.com> - 2013-12-17 20:09 +0100
          Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-12-20 22:28 -0400
            Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes lipska the kat <"lipskathekat at yahoo dot co dot uk"> - 2013-12-21 11:54 +0000
              Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-12-21 18:27 +0100
                Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes lipska the kat <"lipskathekat at yahoo dot co dot uk"> - 2013-12-21 18:23 +0000
                Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes Tim Slattery <tim@risingdove.com> - 2013-12-21 14:56 -0500
                Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes lipska the kat <"lipskathekat at yahoo dot co dot uk"> - 2013-12-21 20:10 +0000
                Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes lipska the kat <"lipskathekat at yahoo dot co dot uk"> - 2013-12-21 21:18 +0000
              Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-12-21 14:52 -0400
                Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes lipska the kat <"lipskathekat at yahoo dot co dot uk"> - 2013-12-21 19:35 +0000
                Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-12-21 19:34 -0400
                Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes leif.roar@invalid.com (Leif Roar Moldskred) - 2013-12-22 05:02 -0600
                Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes lipska the kat <"lipskathekat at yahoo dot co dot uk"> - 2013-12-22 11:12 +0000
                Re: Java 8 closures vs. anonymous inner classes Wanja Gayk <brixomatic@yahoo.com> - 2013-12-22 21:24 +0100

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