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Re: The non-technical side of Java

From Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: The non-technical side of Java
Date 2023-02-03 18:39 +0000
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e.d.pro...@gmail.com <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Java 8 is very sticky. Best of luck.
> So far the only issue I've seen with Java 8 is compatibility. At least
> a handful of third party dependencies are requiring Java 11 if not 17,
> so we are recommending using Java 17, I think might get approved soon.
> I have tested all our code on 17 and it literally required no changes. At
> least I haven't seen any security flaws from the dependencies for using the
> latest version they had compiled for Java 8 so far which is the top issue.

Server java is likely mostly unaffected.

Java running on a client pc from webstart was "pita" to upgrade to 11.

I had to do it a few years ago. It kind of worked, but in the 
end, we're still using Java 8 with IcedTeaWeb from a non-Oracle
support vendor now.

The java 11 compiler (running on solaris) no longer knew about
Windows L&F-classes, and most client dialogs had lots of cosmetic
bugs, where Java didn't work well with desktop enlargement settings:
specifically anything larger than "100%" caused spurious pixel lines
to appear over the dialogs.
Some TextBoxes showed just the middle row of pixels of each character,
etc... The reason might have been a mixture of Swing and AWT, but in
Java 8 that same mixture just wasn't ever a problem.

No budget was offered so far to re-try with some Java >11.

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The non-technical side of Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2023-01-27 19:48 -0500
  Re: The non-technical side of Java Jason H <DarthPiriteze@deathstar.gal> - 2023-01-28 01:08 +0000
    Re: The non-technical side of Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2023-01-27 20:17 -0500
      Re: The non-technical side of Java "e.d.pro...@gmail.com" <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2023-01-30 04:07 -0800
        Re: The non-technical side of Java Jason H <DarthPiriteze@deathstar.gal> - 2023-02-03 13:00 +0000
          Re: The non-technical side of Java "e.d.pro...@gmail.com" <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2023-02-03 09:22 -0800
            Re: The non-technical side of Java Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2023-02-03 18:39 +0000
              Re: The non-technical side of Java "e.d.pro...@gmail.com" <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2023-02-03 10:59 -0800
                Re: The non-technical side of Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2023-02-03 14:04 -0500
              Re: The non-technical side of Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2023-02-03 14:01 -0500

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