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| From | Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.java.programmer |
| Subject | Re: The non-technical side of Java |
| Date | 2023-02-03 14:04 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <trjls6$1iab9$2@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 2/3/2023 1:59 PM, e.d.pro...@gmail.com wrote: >> Java running on a client pc from webstart was "pita" to upgrade to >> 11. >> >> I had to do it a few years ago. It kind of worked, but in the end, >> we're still using Java 8 with IcedTeaWeb from a non-Oracle support >> vendor now. >> >> The java 11 compiler (running on solaris) no longer knew about >> Windows L&F-classes, and most client dialogs had lots of cosmetic >> bugs, where Java didn't work well with desktop enlargement >> settings: specifically anything larger than "100%" caused spurious >> pixel lines to appear over the dialogs. Some TextBoxes showed just >> the middle row of pixels of each character, etc... The reason might >> have been a mixture of Swing and AWT, but in Java 8 that same >> mixture just wasn't ever a problem. > Yeah Java 8 > 11 > 17 has very little issue for the back end of a web > server, but Java 8 to 11 is huge for a couple things. Webstart is > sort of dead. The company I used to work for still has everything in > webstart and is still running Java 8. The third party software they > use, which they haven't upgraded, has their newer stuff on Java 11 > with iced tea. Now with Java 17, and adoptopenjdk moving to adoptium, > I'm not sure how well iced tea is supported. It seems the whole > technology is just not recommended anymore, everyone wants browser > based. Another huge change from Java 8 to 11, I actually developed an > offline Swing app that runs as an executable with an embedded JRE. > Compiled with Java 8, it was over 70MB, in Java 11 it was about half > the size. Swing has always had issues where video was not 100% > scaling. I think newer Java has improved support there, but I haven't > done a lot of testing with it. Browser based is the standard today. Alternatively switch to Android devices for users and continue with Java/Kotlin. Arne
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The non-technical side of Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2023-01-27 19:48 -0500
Re: The non-technical side of Java Jason H <DarthPiriteze@deathstar.gal> - 2023-01-28 01:08 +0000
Re: The non-technical side of Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2023-01-27 20:17 -0500
Re: The non-technical side of Java "e.d.pro...@gmail.com" <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2023-01-30 04:07 -0800
Re: The non-technical side of Java Jason H <DarthPiriteze@deathstar.gal> - 2023-02-03 13:00 +0000
Re: The non-technical side of Java "e.d.pro...@gmail.com" <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2023-02-03 09:22 -0800
Re: The non-technical side of Java Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2023-02-03 18:39 +0000
Re: The non-technical side of Java "e.d.pro...@gmail.com" <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2023-02-03 10:59 -0800
Re: The non-technical side of Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2023-02-03 14:04 -0500
Re: The non-technical side of Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2023-02-03 14:01 -0500
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