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Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye

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On 9/6/2016 3:08 PM, Roedy Green wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Sep 2016 18:18:47 -0400, Eric Sosman
> <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> wrote:
>>     In theory, atomizing every problem into a myriad components
>> means the components are all small enough to be Done Right.  In
>> practice, it's not so easy.  I think we're seeing the backlash.
>
> We have Java Web start which in theory does not have the problems of
> Applets, but seems to be on the same deprecation track.

I don't think so.

> We have JavaScript which behaves differently on each platform,

That may have been the case 10-15 years ago. Today browsers
are much more standard compliant. And the usage of frameworks
hide remaining issues from the developer.

> Surely it should be possible for plugins to run in air tight boxes
> using hardware to enforce the isolation. The isolation should be at
> least as good as app/os isolation.

If forcing people to use a software plugin in their browser
is a no go today, then requiring users to have some specific
hardware is totally out of the question.

Arne

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Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-08-24 08:37 -0400
  How about 2K and 4K Displays? (Was: Kiss your Applet good-bye) j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-08-24 16:38 +0200
    Re: How about 2K and 4K Displays? (Was: Kiss your Applet good-bye) j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-08-24 16:44 +0200
    Re: How about 2K and 4K Displays? (Was: Kiss your Applet good-bye) Roedy Green <inquiry@mindprod.com> - 2016-09-14 15:08 -0700
  Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-08-24 16:57 +0000
    Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 10:08 -0700
    Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-24 20:10 -0400
  Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-24 20:06 -0400
    Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 04:42 -0700
  Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Roedy Green <inquiry@mindprod.com> - 2016-09-04 23:12 -0700
    Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-09-05 09:02 -0400
      Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-09-05 21:31 +0000
        Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-09-05 18:18 -0400
          Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Roedy Green <inquiry@mindprod.com> - 2016-09-06 12:08 -0700
            Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 13:17 -0700
              Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-09-06 19:27 -0400
            Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-09-06 19:24 -0400
          Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-09-06 19:58 +0000
            Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 13:08 -0700
            Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 13:55 -0700
              Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-09-06 22:28 +0000
  Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 12:44 -0700
    Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-10-14 15:52 -0400
      Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 13:07 -0700
    Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Tim Slattery <tim@risingdove.com> - 2016-10-15 15:08 -0400
      Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-03 13:54 -0700
        Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2017-10-04 07:25 +0800
          Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2017-10-04 08:09 +0000

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