Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > comp.lang.java.programmer > #35542

Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye

Show all headers | View raw

On 9/5/2016 5:31 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Sep 2016 09:02:16 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>
>> Oracle does not have much choice.
>>
>> The makers of browsers are dropping applet support.
>>
> Not only that, but they are steadily dropping support for ANYTHING they
> didn't write, e.g xpdf, even though their internal PDF readers don't work
> as well as the long-standing external equivalents.
>
>> Why maintain something that cannot be used by anyone.
>>
> Because their internal 'solutions' are crap?

     Just a bit more charitably, perhaps it's because they're sick
and tired of getting bad press and bug reports for things they do
not and cannot control.  "Stupid Google!  Your crappy Chrome crashes
whenever I try to run this out-of-date version of Adobe Reader!"
"Stupid Microsoft!  I got a ransomware infection simply by running
a Java applet on your crappy Windows!"  (If you don't believe that
complaints of this sort arise, get directed at the non-involved
party, and lead to all kinds of flamage both on line and in print,
you live in a nicer world than I do.)

     Remember, we *asked* for this kind of problem when we decided
that Component Architecture Is The Way To Go.  Things are fine and
dandy as long as the components play well together -- but then you
get a security fix in Component X that causes Component Y to
misbehave, so you pester Vendor X for a fix and he says "It's Y's
bug," and Y says "We didn't change anything; X is at fault,"
and meanwhile your airplanes are sitting idly on the tarmac ...

     In theory, atomizing every problem into a myriad components
means the components are all small enough to be Done Right.  In
practice, it's not so easy.  I think we're seeing the backlash.

-- 
esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid
The Tooth Fairy has gone high-tech, now pays in Bitecoin.

Back to comp.lang.java.programmer | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-08-24 08:37 -0400
  How about 2K and 4K Displays? (Was: Kiss your Applet good-bye) j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-08-24 16:38 +0200
    Re: How about 2K and 4K Displays? (Was: Kiss your Applet good-bye) j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2016-08-24 16:44 +0200
    Re: How about 2K and 4K Displays? (Was: Kiss your Applet good-bye) Roedy Green <inquiry@mindprod.com> - 2016-09-14 15:08 -0700
  Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-08-24 16:57 +0000
    Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 10:08 -0700
    Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-24 20:10 -0400
  Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-24 20:06 -0400
    Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 04:42 -0700
  Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Roedy Green <inquiry@mindprod.com> - 2016-09-04 23:12 -0700
    Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-09-05 09:02 -0400
      Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-09-05 21:31 +0000
        Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-09-05 18:18 -0400
          Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Roedy Green <inquiry@mindprod.com> - 2016-09-06 12:08 -0700
            Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 13:17 -0700
              Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-09-06 19:27 -0400
            Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-09-06 19:24 -0400
          Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-09-06 19:58 +0000
            Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 13:08 -0700
            Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 13:55 -0700
              Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-09-06 22:28 +0000
  Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 12:44 -0700
    Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-10-14 15:52 -0400
      Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 13:07 -0700
    Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Tim Slattery <tim@risingdove.com> - 2016-10-15 15:08 -0400
      Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-03 13:54 -0700
        Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2017-10-04 07:25 +0800
          Re: Kiss your Applet good-bye Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2017-10-04 08:09 +0000

csiph-web