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Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java

From	Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject	Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java
Date	2015-10-03 10:36 -0400
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On 10/2/2015 10:39 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 9/27/2015 11:07 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 9/27/2015 9:05 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 9/25/2015 8:36 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>> On 09/25/2015 12:37 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>> Translator - using the words worker and translation in a general
>>>> sense a
>>>> translator is a worker that produces translations.
>>>>
>>>> Compiler - A compiler is a translator from strings to strings.
>>>> This is pretty much the definition given by Aho, and Ullman in the
>>>> reference
>>>> that I gave elsewhere. Their definition is much more nuanced
>>>> according to
>>>> their usage, but for my purpose this wholly satisfactory.
>>>>
>>>> Interpreter - An Interpreter is a translator from languages to
>>>> languages.
>>>> This is inspired by the comments of Donald Knuth in the few
>>>> self-effacing
>>>> leading paragraphs of his article "Literate Programming" available
>>>> here:
>>>> <http://comjnl.oxfordjournals.org/content/27/2/97.full.pdf+html
> 
>>> An interpreter does not translate to anything instead it executes
>>> something.
>>>
>>> Translation and compilation has both an input and an output.
>>>
>>> I would go with the following definitions:
>>>
>>> Translator - anything that converts from one format to another format
>>>
>>> Compiler - a translator that converts from a higher level format to
>>> a lower level format except for the special case where the higher level
>>> format is symbolic version of machine code in which case it for historic
>>> reasons are called an assembler
>>>
>>> Converter - a translator that converts from a format to another format
>>> at the same level
>>>
>>> Decompiler - a translator that converts from a lower level format to
>>> a higher level format except for the special case where the higher level
>>> format is symbolic version of machine code in which case it for historic
>>> reasons are called an disassembler
>>
>> And once again you are wrong.  Although I might differ on some minor
>> points, Jeff is much closer to being accurate than you are.
> 
> Feel free to think that interpreters translate from one language to
> another, but that is pretty far from reality.
> 
> Arne
> 
> 

Arne,

Once again you show your lack of understanding of even the most basic
programming concepts.  I suggest you actually read Jeff's references.

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Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-25 00:37 -0400
  Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2015-09-25 08:26 +0200
  Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-25 08:36 -0400
    Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2015-09-25 18:18 +0200
    Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-27 21:05 -0400
      Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-27 23:07 -0400
        Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-02 22:39 -0400
          Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-03 10:36 -0400
            Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 21:33 -0400
              Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 22:08 -0400
  Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-25 10:32 -0400
    Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-27 21:15 -0400
      Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-27 23:09 -0400
        Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-02 22:41 -0400
          Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-03 10:38 -0400
            Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 21:35 -0400
              Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 22:09 -0400
                Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 22:16 -0400
                Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 22:26 -0400
      Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 13:17 -0700
        Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-03 10:41 -0400
          Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 21:24 -0700
            Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 08:45 -0400
              Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 10:58 -0700
                Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 14:23 -0400
                Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 22:10 -0400
                Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 22:26 -0400
          Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 22:01 -0400
            Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 22:10 -0400
  Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 16:55 +0100
    Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 13:14 -0700
    I don't remember JIT-ing for JDK 1.1 (Was: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2015-10-03 04:56 +0200
      Re: I don't remember JIT-ing for JDK 1.1 (Was: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-02 23:11 -0400
        Re: I don't remember JIT-ing for JDK 1.1 (Was: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-02 23:14 -0400
          Re: I don't remember JIT-ing for JDK 1.1 (Was: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java) Mike Amling <mamling@chaff.us> - 2015-10-04 08:34 -0500
  Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2015-10-06 10:34 +0200
    Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2015-10-06 11:01 +0200

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