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Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java

From Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java
Date 2015-10-02 22:39 -0400
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On 9/27/2015 11:07 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 9/27/2015 9:05 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 9/25/2015 8:36 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>> On 09/25/2015 12:37 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>> Translator - using the words worker and translation in a general sense a
>>> translator is a worker that produces translations.
>>>
>>> Compiler - A compiler is a translator from strings to strings.
>>> This is pretty much the definition given by Aho, and Ullman in the
>>> reference
>>> that I gave elsewhere. Their definition is much more nuanced according to
>>> their usage, but for my purpose this wholly satisfactory.
>>>
>>> Interpreter - An Interpreter is a translator from languages to languages.
>>> This is inspired by the comments of Donald Knuth in the few self-effacing
>>> leading paragraphs of his article "Literate Programming" available here:
>>> <http://comjnl.oxfordjournals.org/content/27/2/97.full.pdf+html

>> An interpreter does not translate to anything instead it executes
>> something.
>>
>> Translation and compilation has both an input and an output.
>>
>> I would go with the following definitions:
>>
>> Translator - anything that converts from one format to another format
>>
>> Compiler - a translator that converts from a higher level format to
>> a lower level format except for the special case where the higher level
>> format is symbolic version of machine code in which case it for historic
>> reasons are called an assembler
>>
>> Converter - a translator that converts from a format to another format
>> at the same level
>>
>> Decompiler - a translator that converts from a lower level format to
>> a higher level format except for the special case where the higher level
>> format is symbolic version of machine code in which case it for historic
>> reasons are called an disassembler
>
> And once again you are wrong.  Although I might differ on some minor
> points, Jeff is much closer to being accurate than you are.

Feel free to think that interpreters translate from one language to
another, but that is pretty far from reality.

Arne

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Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-25 00:37 -0400
  Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2015-09-25 08:26 +0200
  Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-25 08:36 -0400
    Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2015-09-25 18:18 +0200
    Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-27 21:05 -0400
      Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-27 23:07 -0400
        Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-02 22:39 -0400
          Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-03 10:36 -0400
            Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 21:33 -0400
              Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 22:08 -0400
  Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-25 10:32 -0400
    Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-27 21:15 -0400
      Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-27 23:09 -0400
        Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-02 22:41 -0400
          Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-03 10:38 -0400
            Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 21:35 -0400
              Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 22:09 -0400
                Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 22:16 -0400
                Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 22:26 -0400
      Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 13:17 -0700
        Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-03 10:41 -0400
          Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 21:24 -0700
            Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 08:45 -0400
              Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 10:58 -0700
                Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 14:23 -0400
                Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 22:10 -0400
                Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 22:26 -0400
          Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 22:01 -0400
            Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 22:10 -0400
  Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 16:55 +0100
    Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 13:14 -0700
    I don't remember JIT-ing for JDK 1.1 (Was: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2015-10-03 04:56 +0200
      Re: I don't remember JIT-ing for JDK 1.1 (Was: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-02 23:11 -0400
        Re: I don't remember JIT-ing for JDK 1.1 (Was: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-02 23:14 -0400
          Re: I don't remember JIT-ing for JDK 1.1 (Was: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java) Mike Amling <mamling@chaff.us> - 2015-10-04 08:34 -0500
  Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2015-10-06 10:34 +0200
    Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2015-10-06 11:01 +0200

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