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| From | Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.java.programmer |
| Subject | Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java |
| Date | 2015-09-27 23:07 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <muaapc$g6h$2@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 9/27/2015 9:05 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote: > On 9/25/2015 8:36 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote: >> On 09/25/2015 12:37 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote: >>> I'm so confused. >>> Will someone please clearly explain to me how the terms >>> translator, compiler, and interpreter relate to the Java language? >> >> After posting this question last night I went to bed and slept. This >> morning I awoke refreshed and began to ponder the question again. I have >> come up with an explanation that satisfies me. I see that at this moment >> there has been one reply to my question but I haven't looked at the res- >> ponse just yet because I want to give my own explanation time to sink in >> and perhaps mature. >> >> First my definitions. >> >> Translator - using the words worker and translation in a general sense a >> translator is a worker that produces translations. >> >> Compiler - A compiler is a translator from strings to strings. >> This is pretty much the definition given by Aho, and Ullman in the >> reference >> that I gave elsewhere. Their definition is much more nuanced according to >> their usage, but for my purpose this wholly satisfactory. >> >> Interpreter - An Interpreter is a translator from languages to languages. >> This is inspired by the comments of Donald Knuth in the few self-effacing >> leading paragraphs of his article "Literate Programming" available here: >> <http://comjnl.oxfordjournals.org/content/27/2/97.full.pdf+html > > I think those definitions are horrible wrong. > > [for the rest please assume programming language context - plain > English is very different] > > An interpreter does not translate to anything instead it executes > something. > > Translation and compilation has both an input and an output. > > I would go with the following definitions: > > Translator - anything that converts from one format to another format > > Compiler - a translator that converts from a higher level format to > a lower level format except for the special case where the higher level > format is symbolic version of machine code in which case it for historic > reasons are called an assembler > > Converter - a translator that converts from a format to another format > at the same level > > Decompiler - a translator that converts from a lower level format to > a higher level format except for the special case where the higher level > format is symbolic version of machine code in which case it for historic > reasons are called an disassembler > > I think these would match common usage of the terms. > > Arne > > And once again you are wrong. Although I might differ on some minor points, Jeff is much closer to being accurate than you are. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ==================
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Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-25 00:37 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2015-09-25 08:26 +0200
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-25 08:36 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2015-09-25 18:18 +0200
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-27 21:05 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-27 23:07 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-02 22:39 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-03 10:36 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 21:33 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 22:08 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-25 10:32 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-27 21:15 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-27 23:09 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-02 22:41 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-03 10:38 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 21:35 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 22:09 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 22:16 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 22:26 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 13:17 -0700
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-03 10:41 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 21:24 -0700
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 08:45 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 10:58 -0700
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 14:23 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 22:10 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 22:26 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 22:01 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 22:10 -0400
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 16:55 +0100
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 13:14 -0700
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Re: I don't remember JIT-ing for JDK 1.1 (Was: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-02 23:11 -0400
Re: I don't remember JIT-ing for JDK 1.1 (Was: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-02 23:14 -0400
Re: I don't remember JIT-ing for JDK 1.1 (Was: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java) Mike Amling <mamling@chaff.us> - 2015-10-04 08:34 -0500
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2015-10-06 10:34 +0200
Re: Translator, Compiler, Interpreter and Java Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2015-10-06 11:01 +0200
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