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| From | "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.lang.java.programmer |
| References | (3 earlier) <53b978b3$0$291$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <lpq0cb$4h6$1@speranza.aioe.org> <JavaFX-20140712035816@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <JavaFX-20140712051556@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <lpqcmb$s40$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| Subject | Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly |
| Date | 2014-07-14 13:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <N9mdnatJLvvUV17OnZ2dnUVZ7vOdnZ2d@bt.com> (permalink) |
Nasser M. Abbasi wrote:
> If JavaFX is doomed, then Java itself is doomed.
I don't see why. If Java-on-the-desktop died /totally/ this minute it wouldn't
make a lot of difference even this afternoon. And in the longer term it's not
at all clear what "the desktop" will be. If it's Android tablets and similar
then even today Java is used in Rather A Lot of applications (but not
AWT/Swing/JavaFX). If it's something else then Java may or may not be relevant
there.
Personal opinion ("guess" would be a better word): JavaFX will be relevant on
the desktop, or on whatever replaces it, if and only if Oracle manages to make
it the /default/ application framework for that environment. That won't happen
on Windows, won't happen on Apple kit, won't happen on Android (pissing off
Google wasn't perhaps the smatest stategic decision Oracle have ever made ;-)
If, and only if, Oracle feels that control over the desktop (or whatever
replaces it) is /necessary/ for it's future will it attempt to push JavaFX into
that position. And the only way (that I can see) it can do that is by building
its own super-desirable devices.
But of course, there's no reason to suppose that control over the desktop (or
whatever) is necessary to the survival of either Oracle or Java.
-- chris
P.S. I think there is some scope for a super-desirbale (for businesses)
Oracle-based device: I like the idea of totally transparent integration of the
device desktop with SQL-in-the-cloud.
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