Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.bt.com!news.bt.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 07:17:13 -0500 From: "Chris Uppal" Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer References: <04c1fe18-b023-4f45-8fa3-3c2f78cba69e@googlegroups.com> <5d237ee6-b5cf-4dc0-81a4-32177471183b@googlegroups.com> <53b978b3$0$291$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> Subject: Re: How to make my java applets more user friendly Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 13:11:51 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Message-ID: Lines: 32 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-AuthenticatedUsername: NoAuthUser X-Trace: sv3-retNYInHQHTOq3VGX1Ao0/FK/itGuxRUQjjZ+bJgQf8KLZVtcDhaxEk4pkYlyUQo5NqxuL9awAtVQKg!mygvU6Tg7EES6Oosbp1xVD6bgYXxsY78u/GYA7zrDuL61Et+qNZyDmN4QeTki2Gx6grgwoB7Tg== X-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3011 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:29095 Nasser M. Abbasi wrote: > If JavaFX is doomed, then Java itself is doomed. I don't see why. If Java-on-the-desktop died /totally/ this minute it wouldn't make a lot of difference even this afternoon. And in the longer term it's not at all clear what "the desktop" will be. If it's Android tablets and similar then even today Java is used in Rather A Lot of applications (but not AWT/Swing/JavaFX). If it's something else then Java may or may not be relevant there. Personal opinion ("guess" would be a better word): JavaFX will be relevant on the desktop, or on whatever replaces it, if and only if Oracle manages to make it the /default/ application framework for that environment. That won't happen on Windows, won't happen on Apple kit, won't happen on Android (pissing off Google wasn't perhaps the smatest stategic decision Oracle have ever made ;-) If, and only if, Oracle feels that control over the desktop (or whatever replaces it) is /necessary/ for it's future will it attempt to push JavaFX into that position. And the only way (that I can see) it can do that is by building its own super-desirable devices. But of course, there's no reason to suppose that control over the desktop (or whatever) is necessary to the survival of either Oracle or Java. -- chris P.S. I think there is some scope for a super-desirbale (for businesses) Oracle-based device: I like the idea of totally transparent integration of the device desktop with SQL-in-the-cloud.