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| From | "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> |
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| Subject | Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? |
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Stefan Ram wrote:
> "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> writes:
> > Have you considered teaching Android programming (in Java) instead of
> > "desktop" programming ?
>
> I am offering Android programming as a separate class for
> students with knowledge of the fundamentals of OO
> programming in Java. But for a general Java class this might
> be too special.
Fair enough, but that raises the question that I now think we should have asked
earlier: /why/ are these students taking your course ? Is it as a first step
where most of them expect that they'll take further courses later (or drop out
completely and never think about programming again) ? Or do they hope to get
some kind of handle on how to program for themselves (I.e. make their own apps
or whatever) and want the course to give them a good start towards being able
to do that[*] ? Or do they take it just for interest; say as a way to
understand computers a bit better without intending to program them in future ?
Or do they looking for a first step towards becoming a professional programmer
(note how different this is from they earlier suggestion marked [*]) ? Or what
?
IMO, only in the case marked with a [*] does it make much difference how
relevant Swing is today (or even Java, come to that).
--chris
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Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-08 13:17 -0500
Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? markspace <markspace@nospam.nospam> - 2013-12-08 16:07 -0800
Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-08 22:04 -0500
Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2013-12-09 07:19 +0000
Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2013-12-11 18:57 +0000
Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? markspace <markspace@nospam.nospam> - 2013-12-11 17:57 -0800
Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-12-14 17:23 -0500
Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-12-11 21:35 -0500
Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? leif.roar@invalid.com (Leif Roar Moldskred) - 2013-12-12 00:37 -0600
Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? leif.roar@invalid.com (Leif Roar Moldskred) - 2013-12-12 13:24 -0600
Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-12-14 17:25 -0500
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