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Re: Teaching Java, teaching what?

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Stefan Ram wrote:
> "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> writes:
> > Have you considered teaching Android programming (in Java) instead of
> > "desktop" programming ?
>
>  I am offering Android programming as a separate class for
>  students with knowledge of the fundamentals of OO
>  programming in Java. But for a general Java class this might
>  be too special.

Fair enough, but that raises the question that I now think we should have asked 
earlier: /why/ are these students taking your course ?  Is it as a first step 
where most of them expect that they'll take further courses later (or drop out 
completely and never think about programming again) ?  Or do they hope to get 
some kind of handle on how to program for themselves (I.e. make their own apps 
or whatever) and want the course to give them a good start towards being able 
to do that[*] ?  Or do they take it just for interest; say as a way to 
understand computers a bit better without intending to program them in future ? 
Or do they looking for a first step towards becoming a professional programmer 
(note how different this is from they earlier suggestion marked [*]) ?  Or what 
?

IMO, only in the case marked with a [*] does it make much difference how 
relevant Swing is today (or even Java, come to that).

    --chris 

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Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-08 13:17 -0500
  Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? markspace <markspace@nospam.nospam> - 2013-12-08 16:07 -0800
  Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-08 22:04 -0500
  Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2013-12-09 07:19 +0000
    Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2013-12-11 18:57 +0000
      Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? markspace <markspace@nospam.nospam> - 2013-12-11 17:57 -0800
        Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-12-14 17:23 -0500
      Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-12-11 21:35 -0500
      Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? leif.roar@invalid.com (Leif Roar Moldskred) - 2013-12-12 00:37 -0600
        Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? leif.roar@invalid.com (Leif Roar Moldskred) - 2013-12-12 13:24 -0600
        Re: Teaching Java, teaching what? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-12-14 17:25 -0500

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