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forth implementation for linux x64

Started byArkady Rost <arkrost@gmail.com>
First post2014-01-06 16:55 -0800
Last post2014-01-08 04:41 -0500
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  forth implementation for linux x64 Arkady Rost <arkrost@gmail.com> - 2014-01-06 16:55 -0800
    Re: forth implementation for linux x64 Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-01-07 03:31 +0100
      Re: forth implementation for linux x64 Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-01-07 07:58 +0000
    Re: forth implementation for linux x64 albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-01-07 13:20 +0000
      Re: forth implementation for linux x64 Arkady Rost <arkrost@gmail.com> - 2014-01-07 09:51 -0800
      Re: forth implementation for linux x64 "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-01-08 04:41 -0500

#27704 — forth implementation for linux x64

FromArkady Rost <arkrost@gmail.com>
Date2014-01-06 16:55 -0800
Subjectforth implementation for linux x64
Message-ID<af49bccd-e956-47e4-bfad-221f0c7d6522@googlegroups.com>
Hello!

I'm really impressed by forth and looking forward to dive in programming with it. Suggest me please the most fresh and usable forth implementation for linux x64 platform.

Yours,
  Arkady Rost

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#27709

FromBernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de>
Date2014-01-07 03:31 +0100
Message-ID<lafouf$uq7$2@online.de>
In reply to#27704
Arkady Rost wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> I'm really impressed by forth and looking forward to dive in programming
> with it. Suggest me please the most fresh and usable forth implementation
> for linux x64 platform.

Most fresh is the most recent Gforth snapshot from a few days ago, download 
here:

http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/gforth/Snapshots/

(the version in the git repo is even fresher ;-).

-- 
Bernd Paysan
"If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself"
http://bernd-paysan.de/

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#27710

FromPaul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk>
Date2014-01-07 07:58 +0000
Message-ID<bj1qdlFiptcU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#27709
Bernd Paysan wrote:

> Arkady Rost wrote:
> 
>> Hello!
>> 
>> I'm really impressed by forth and looking forward to dive in programming
>> with it. Suggest me please the most fresh and usable forth implementation
>> for linux x64 platform.
> 
> Most fresh is the most recent Gforth snapshot from a few days ago,
> download here:
> 
> http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/gforth/Snapshots/
> 
> (the version in the git repo is even fresher ;-).
> 

Or MPE's VfX Forth which is available from their website 
<http://www.mpeforth.com/>.

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#27714

Fromalbert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst)
Date2014-01-07 13:20 +0000
Message-ID<52cbff0d$0$9236$e4fe514c@dreader35.news.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#27704
In article <af49bccd-e956-47e4-bfad-221f0c7d6522@googlegroups.com>,
Arkady Rost  <arkrost@gmail.com> wrote:
>Hello!
>
>I'm really impressed by forth and looking forward to dive in programming
>with it. Suggest me please the most fresh and usable forth
>implementation for linux x64 platform.

You shouldn't ask for fresh programs. They are no groceries.

Instead you should ask for programs that are so good and stable
that there have been no changes for years, because
there are no improvements possible and no defects found.

Usability depends a lot on the documentation quality.
You'll find free versions of commercial Forths not lacking.
Then there are well-documented GPL Forths like gforth
and others.

>
>Yours,
>  Arkady Rost

Groetjes Albert
-- 
Albert van der Horst, UTRECHT,THE NETHERLANDS
Economic growth -- being exponential -- ultimately falters.
albert@spe&ar&c.xs4all.nl &=n http://home.hccnet.nl/a.w.m.van.der.horst

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#27723

FromArkady Rost <arkrost@gmail.com>
Date2014-01-07 09:51 -0800
Message-ID<36c2c5e1-b11c-421b-b57b-f49cb7379d4a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#27714
Thanks for answers. I've decided to start with gforth.

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#27728

From"Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm>
Date2014-01-08 04:41 -0500
Message-ID<op.w9c3uouz5zc71u@localhost>
In reply to#27714
On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 08:20:13 -0500, Albert van der Horst  
<albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> wrote:
> In article <af49bccd-e956-47e4-bfad-221f0c7d6522@googlegroups.com>,
> Arkady Rost  <arkrost@gmail.com> wrote:

>> I'm really impressed by forth and looking forward to dive in
>> programming with it. Suggest me please the most fresh and usable
>> forth implementation for linux x64 platform.
>
> You shouldn't ask for fresh programs. They are [not] groceries.
>
> Instead you should ask for programs that are so good and stable
> that there have been no changes for years, because
> there are no improvements possible and no defects found.
>

I agree, but don't conflate "good" and "stable" with no bugs.

A couple of quotes of mine from 2007:

"A couple other problems are that the code might not be under your control
and that the code may still be active.  When it comes to code written by
others, I tend to prefer code that is well tested (few bugs) and dead (no
new bugs)."

"[that project] appears to be a dead project so the code is guaranteed to
be stable, i.e., no further new bugs by hyperactive developers..."

Of course, I think that implies you also indicated your preference
for a dead Forth too, since an active or an alive Forth won't be stable.


Rod Pemberton

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