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Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded

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On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 00:54:53 -0400, <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Monday, July 21, 2014 12:02:14 AM UTC-7, Elizabeth D. Rather wrote:

>> Yes, DO loops and BEGIN loops are designed for completely different
>> situations. That's why there are two families of iteration structures,
>> each adapted for the appropriate case:
>>
>> DO ... LOOP structures are for "finite" loops, where you know how many
>> times (or the maximum number of times) you want to do stuff.
>>
>> BEGIN ... WHILE/UNTIL structures are for "indefinite" loops, when how
>> long you want to do it depends on unpredictable circumstances.
>>
>> Two sets of structures, optimized for two different situations. If you
>> use DO ... LOOP structures when appropriate, I (and, occasionally, J)
>> are very useful. If you start synthesizing these with BEGIN, etc., and
>> locals, you'll be far less efficient.
>
> This is baloney. DO loops can be used for situations in which you don't
> know how many times that you want to iterate.

Yes, you can use both as an infinite loop that is escaped.
You've demonstrated this below for DO.  But, why would you
use DO for an infinite loop when BEGIN generally has far
less overhead?

> For example, in my novice
> package we have this for determining the length of a list:
>
> : length ( head -- count )
>     0 0 do
>         dup 0= if  I  nip  unloop exit then
>         .fore @  loop ;
>
> If you do this with BEGIN, it will be less efficient because
> of the stack-juggling needed.

 From my experience, DO I and LOOP use a large amount of return
stack juggling using two stacked values.  Are you taking into
account the stack operations performed by the loop constructs
DO I LOOP BEGIN AGAIN UNTIL ?  Could you post the equivalent
code using BEGIN AGAIN, preferably, or perhaps BEGIN UNTIL ?
I might be coding it wrongly or differently in my head ...

> DO loops really need to be trashed.

Most high-level languages have counter based loops.
What do you suggest instead?  I.e., it still needs a
counter, and needs to work with ANS, Forth 83,
fig-Forth, etc.

> I considered discarding >R etc., as they are also a throw-back
> to the 1970s when Forth didn't have locals.

With a few temporaries, you shouldn't really need locals either ...
Yet, you want to discard one and implement the other.  Odd.

I'm sure I've mentioned this once or twice before too.
You seem to repeat conversations as much or more than
J.P. did.  I just hope you're aware of that ...


Rod Pemberton

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Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 02:35 -0700
  Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-07-10 17:18 +0200
    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 08:41 -0700
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-07-10 17:55 +0200
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-07-10 19:53 +0000
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded jacko <jackokring@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 05:15 -0700
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 09:02 -0700
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-10 15:45 -1000
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 21:44 -0700
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-10 18:53 -1000
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-11 12:59 +0000
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-07-11 09:33 -0500
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-11 07:33 -1000
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-07-11 20:32 -0700
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-11 18:02 -1000
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-07-12 11:54 +0100
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 23:41 -0400
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-20 21:09 -1000
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-07-11 00:59 -0700
  Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-10 09:06 -0700
    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 11:12 -0700
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2014-07-10 11:30 -0700
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 11:59 -0700
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded mhx@iae.nl - 2014-07-10 12:54 -0700
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-10 12:56 -0700
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-10 13:19 -0700
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-07-10 23:01 +0200
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-10 16:29 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-07-11 02:15 +0200
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-10 20:00 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-10 17:56 -1000
                Implementing UM/MOD (was: Forth16e, Forth32e, ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-11 12:12 +0000
                Re: Implementing UM/MOD (was: Forth16e, Forth32e, ...) bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-11 07:41 -0700
                Re: Implementing UM/MOD (was: Forth16e, Forth32e, ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-11 15:56 +0000
                Re: Implementing UM/MOD (was: Forth16e, Forth32e, ...) bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-11 09:26 -0700
                Re: Implementing UM/MOD AKK <akk@nospam.org> - 2014-07-11 20:05 +0200
                Re: Implementing UM/MOD (was: Forth16e, Forth32e, ...) bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-12 01:38 -0700
                Re: Implementing UM/MOD (was: Forth16e, Forth32e, ...) bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-12 02:00 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-07-13 09:31 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-13 07:02 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-13 09:35 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-13 10:02 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-07-13 12:18 -0500
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-13 10:45 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-13 08:06 -1000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-13 08:02 -1000
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-07-11 10:28 +0100
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-11 06:28 -0700
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-07-10 20:18 +0000
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-12 19:01 -0700
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-15 22:18 -0700
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 00:01 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-16 18:25 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 10:21 +0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-17 15:56 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 09:35 +0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 00:32 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 00:36 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-17 16:52 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-16 22:55 -1000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-17 16:34 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-07-18 14:30 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-18 14:40 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-07-18 17:05 +0200
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-18 17:26 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-07-19 22:31 +0200
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-21 15:14 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-07-19 00:37 +0200
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-18 16:30 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-07-19 01:40 +0200
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-18 17:00 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-19 16:36 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-19 21:36 -0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-19 21:05 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-21 02:01 -0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 06:09 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 06:25 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-20 22:11 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 22:47 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-20 21:02 -1000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-21 21:54 -0700
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                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 01:06 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 01:12 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-22 04:25 -0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-22 20:41 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-22 08:25 -1000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-22 19:15 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-23 04:23 -0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2014-07-23 12:48 +0200
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-21 21:35 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-21 23:53 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-22 18:11 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 22:08 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 22:22 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-07-23 03:27 -0500
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-24 19:00 -0700
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                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-25 23:01 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-07-26 04:13 -0700
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                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2014-07-23 16:40 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-24 14:08 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-25 06:36 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-18 22:59 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-07-19 11:17 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-19 17:04 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-19 21:38 -0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-17 10:16 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-17 16:13 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded mhx@iae.nl - 2014-07-19 08:04 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-16 20:51 -0700
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-27 21:08 -0700
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-07-10 20:12 +0000
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-10 13:49 -0700
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-10 11:31 -1000
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-10 16:30 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-07-11 01:11 -0700
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 21:30 -0700
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-07-10 21:57 +0200
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 23:47 -0400
  Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-07-10 12:48 -0500
    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 11:33 -0700
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-07-10 23:35 +0200
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 21:51 -0700
  Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Matthias Koch <matthias.koch@hot.uni-hannover.de> - 2014-07-11 12:30 +0200
    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-07-11 11:56 +0100
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-07-11 07:08 -0500
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-07-12 18:46 +0100
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Matthias Koch <matthias.koch@hot.uni-hannover.de> - 2014-07-14 15:50 +0200
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2014-07-11 17:50 -0700
    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-14 17:32 -0700
  Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-12 21:56 -0700
    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-12 23:12 -0700
    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-07-13 10:42 +0000
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-07-13 13:54 +0200
  Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-13 09:57 -0700

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