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Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded

From anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded
Date 2014-07-18 17:26 +0000
Organization Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
Message-ID <2014Jul18.192602@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink)
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"Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> writes:
>on 18/07/2014 16:40:13,  wrote:
>> stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) writes:
>>>It's certainly true that 64 bit CPUs are good for applications
>>>that use a lot of 64 bit data. Outside the scientific domains
>>>there does not seem to be a great demand for 64 bit data.
>> 
>> 64-bit CPUs and 64-bit Forth systems are good for applications that
>> use more data than can be addressed with 32 bits.  On the usual OSs
>> the 32-bit limit is 2-3GB of data.
>> 
>> - anton
>
>The default operand size on x64 in 64 bit mode is 32 bits. Your OS may
>use ths mode; Windows does. A long int is 32 bits. Linux and other Unices
>seem to be uniformly 64/64.

You seem to be conflating and confusing a number of things.

In the AMD64 architecture (called x64 in the Windows world) there are
8-bit, 16-bit, 32-bit, and 64-bit variants of many instructions (but
addresses are always 64-bit, so, e.g., LEA always produces 64-bit
results).  The 16-bit and 64-bit variants of the instructions are
encoded by preprending a prefix to the 32-bit version of the
instruction (8-bit has a bit in the instruction).  That is true
whichever OS you are using on AMD64.  And while there are many modes
in AMD64, there is only one for 64-bit user-mode programs (the 64-bit
mode), and it has this property.  64-bit programs run in this mode on
any OS.

The other thing is that the C API/ABI for Win64 defines long int to be
32 bits.  Apparently that allowed easier porting of Win32 programs to
Win64.  That is independent of the architecture (e.g., it is also the
case on IA-64).  In any case, this is C stuff and does not really
concern us in Forth (except when we interface to C)..  In Forth cells
are as big as adresses, i.e., on Win64 you have 64-bit cells.

- anton
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  Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-07-10 17:18 +0200
    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 08:41 -0700
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-07-10 17:55 +0200
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-07-10 19:53 +0000
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded jacko <jackokring@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 05:15 -0700
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      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-10 15:45 -1000
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 21:44 -0700
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-10 18:53 -1000
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-11 12:59 +0000
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-07-11 09:33 -0500
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-11 07:33 -1000
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-07-11 20:32 -0700
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-11 18:02 -1000
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-07-12 11:54 +0100
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 23:41 -0400
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-20 21:09 -1000
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-07-11 00:59 -0700
  Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-10 09:06 -0700
    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 11:12 -0700
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2014-07-10 11:30 -0700
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 11:59 -0700
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded mhx@iae.nl - 2014-07-10 12:54 -0700
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-10 12:56 -0700
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-10 13:19 -0700
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-07-10 23:01 +0200
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-10 16:29 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-07-11 02:15 +0200
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-10 20:00 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-10 17:56 -1000
                Implementing UM/MOD (was: Forth16e, Forth32e, ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-11 12:12 +0000
                Re: Implementing UM/MOD (was: Forth16e, Forth32e, ...) bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-11 07:41 -0700
                Re: Implementing UM/MOD (was: Forth16e, Forth32e, ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-11 15:56 +0000
                Re: Implementing UM/MOD (was: Forth16e, Forth32e, ...) bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-11 09:26 -0700
                Re: Implementing UM/MOD AKK <akk@nospam.org> - 2014-07-11 20:05 +0200
                Re: Implementing UM/MOD (was: Forth16e, Forth32e, ...) bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-12 01:38 -0700
                Re: Implementing UM/MOD (was: Forth16e, Forth32e, ...) bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-12 02:00 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-07-13 09:31 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-13 07:02 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-13 09:35 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-13 10:02 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-07-13 12:18 -0500
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-13 10:45 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-13 08:06 -1000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-13 08:02 -1000
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-07-11 10:28 +0100
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-11 06:28 -0700
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-07-10 20:18 +0000
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-12 19:01 -0700
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-15 22:18 -0700
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 00:01 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-16 18:25 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 10:21 +0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-17 15:56 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 09:35 +0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 00:32 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 00:36 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-17 16:52 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-16 22:55 -1000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-17 16:34 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-07-18 14:30 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-18 14:40 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-07-18 17:05 +0200
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-18 17:26 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-07-19 22:31 +0200
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-21 15:14 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-07-19 00:37 +0200
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-18 16:30 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-07-19 01:40 +0200
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-18 17:00 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-19 16:36 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-19 21:36 -0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-19 21:05 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-21 02:01 -0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 06:09 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 06:25 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-20 22:11 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 22:47 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-20 21:02 -1000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-21 21:54 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-22 03:47 -0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 01:06 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 01:12 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-22 04:25 -0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-22 20:41 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-22 08:25 -1000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-22 19:15 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-23 04:23 -0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2014-07-23 12:48 +0200
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-21 21:35 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-21 23:53 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-22 18:11 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 22:08 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 22:22 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-07-23 03:27 -0500
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-24 19:00 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-07-25 03:51 -0500
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded jkn_gg@nicorp.f9.co.uk - 2014-07-25 04:50 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-07-25 08:11 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-25 23:01 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-07-26 04:13 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-26 08:02 -0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-25 13:10 -0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-25 23:09 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-22 03:45 -0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-21 01:59 -0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-07-21 12:41 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-21 08:42 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2014-07-20 09:28 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-21 02:01 -0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <buzzoff@nonamewhichexists.cmm> - 2014-09-19 20:05 -0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-20 04:30 -0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <buzzoff@nonamewhichexists.cmm> - 2014-09-20 18:15 -0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-09-21 06:48 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <buzzoff@nonamewhichexists.cmm> - 2014-09-21 20:50 -0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-09-21 20:38 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-21 08:37 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-07-20 11:45 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-20 19:55 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-21 15:10 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-07-21 16:34 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-22 10:53 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-07-22 14:42 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-23 15:50 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2014-07-23 16:40 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-24 14:08 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-25 06:36 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-18 22:59 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-07-19 11:17 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-19 17:04 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-19 21:38 -0400
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-17 10:16 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-17 16:13 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded mhx@iae.nl - 2014-07-19 08:04 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-16 20:51 -0700
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-27 21:08 -0700
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-07-10 20:12 +0000
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-10 13:49 -0700
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-10 11:31 -1000
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-10 16:30 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-07-11 01:11 -0700
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 21:30 -0700
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-07-10 21:57 +0200
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 23:47 -0400
  Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-07-10 12:48 -0500
    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 11:33 -0700
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-07-10 23:35 +0200
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 21:51 -0700
  Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Matthias Koch <matthias.koch@hot.uni-hannover.de> - 2014-07-11 12:30 +0200
    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-07-11 11:56 +0100
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-07-11 07:08 -0500
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-07-12 18:46 +0100
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Matthias Koch <matthias.koch@hot.uni-hannover.de> - 2014-07-14 15:50 +0200
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2014-07-11 17:50 -0700
    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-14 17:32 -0700
  Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-12 21:56 -0700
    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-12 23:12 -0700
    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-07-13 10:42 +0000
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-07-13 13:54 +0200
  Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-13 09:57 -0700

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