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Re: Forth philosophy

From "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Forth philosophy
Date 2014-06-12 07:33 -0400
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On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 00:24:59 -0400, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/2014 8:26 PM, Elizabeth D. Rather wrote:
>> On 6/11/14 1:30 PM, Rod Pemberton wrote:

>>> Also, reducing everything to the simplest concept also interferes
>>> with developing and testing of more complex ideas.  The ability to
>>> grasp the entire problem or implementation at once can be obfuscated
>>> by using small pieces.  It's much better to see the entire problem,
>>> in one place, at once, not a whole bunch of jumbled little pieces
>>> that have to be put together, correctly.
>>
>> Again, this is not my experience. I am not aware that Mr. Pemberton has
>> ever worked on any substantial Forth applications (in addition to
>> writing his own Forth, with some guidance here), or spent time learning
>> Forth programming and debugging strategies. Although I am presently
>> retired, I worked on major commercial Forth applications for over 30
>> years, some of which continued in use for decades.
>
> I agree.  Sometimes I wonder if Rod really believes the things he says
> or if he is just free associating and then working to defend his
> statement like playing a game of go.
>

Well, I used to think comments of disbelief and contradiction
here was just argumentative people playing the "devil's advocate,"
but the frequency of such comments here is just too excessive.
I've since learned that almost everyone here who makes such a
comment has usually never programmed in any language other than
Forth and generally has little to no computer science background.
So, today, I tend to ignore such comments.  I just mention this
for your future reference.


Rod Pemberton

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  Re: Forth philosophy Roger Levy <roger.levy@gmail.com> - 2014-06-10 14:45 -0700
  Re: Forth philosophy Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2014-06-10 12:51 -1000
    Re: Forth philosophy hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-06-10 16:14 -0700
  Re: Forth philosophy Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-06-11 10:03 +0100
    Re: Forth philosophy visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-06-11 11:11 -0700
      Re: Forth philosophy Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-06-11 21:57 +0100
  Re: Forth philosophy "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-06-11 19:30 -0400
    Re: Forth philosophy "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-06-11 14:26 -1000
      Re: Forth philosophy rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-06-12 00:24 -0400
        Re: Forth philosophy "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-06-11 18:58 -1000
          Re: Forth philosophy "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-06-12 07:33 -0400
            Re: Forth philosophy AKK <akk@nospam.org> - 2014-06-12 20:39 +0200
              Re: Forth philosophy "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-06-12 23:15 -0400
              Re: Forth philosophy anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-06-13 17:29 +0000
                Re: Forth philosophy AKK <akk@nospam.org> - 2014-06-14 12:26 +0200
                Re: Forth philosophy anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-06-14 10:59 +0000
                Re: Forth philosophy Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-06-14 07:39 -0500
                Optimizing C compilers vs. assembly language for Forth interpreters (was: Forth philosophy) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-06-14 14:40 +0000
                Re: Optimizing C compilers vs. assembly language for Forth interpreters Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-06-14 11:25 -0500
                Re: Optimizing C compilers vs. assembly language for Forth interpreters Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-06-15 23:55 +0200
                Re: Forth philosophy albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-06-14 19:45 +0000
                Re: Forth philosophy Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-06-15 13:18 -0500
                Re: Forth philosophy AKK <akk@nospam.org> - 2014-06-16 21:14 +0200
                Re: Forth philosophy Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-06-16 22:41 +0200
                Re: Forth philosophy AKK <akk@nospam.org> - 2014-06-17 13:32 +0200
                Re: Forth philosophy Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-06-17 15:02 +0200
                Re: Forth philosophy mhx@iae.nl - 2014-06-16 13:41 -0700
        Re: Forth philosophy "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-06-12 07:33 -0400
        Re: Forth philosophy barrym95838@yahoo.com - 2014-06-13 21:48 -0700
          Re: Forth philosophy "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-06-14 01:01 -0400
      Re: Forth philosophy Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-06-12 03:02 -0500
      Re: Forth philosophy albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-06-12 10:43 +0000
      Re: Forth philosophy "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-06-12 07:32 -0400

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