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On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 13:02:47 -0400, Shark8 <OneWingedShark@gmail.com>  
wrote:
> On 23-Apr-14 23:12, hughaguilar96@yahoo.com wrote:

>> It is sleazy salespeople who demand money for every "upgrade," which is  
>> really just a bug-fix.
>
> Ah, but it works the other way, too:
> 	Customers can, and do, try to sneak new features into "bug-fixes"...
> especially if the bug-fix rate is less than the rate for new development.

A coworker at a former compnay claimed he accidentally made a serious, as
in really, really, expensive, coding mistake long prior to me working  
there,
for which he was rewarded a nice big raise - since he was also the guy who
was asked to fixed the problem ...  Apparently, management never learned
the truth, i.e., he probably would've been fired.

My dad has some phrase about those in management flipping over the table
so they can be rewarded for uprighting it.  I.e., the flipped table is an
artificially created problem which is easily solvable.


Rod Pemberton

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One for Elizabeth... Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-04-22 03:02 -0700
  Re: One for Elizabeth... "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-04-22 09:04 -1000
    Re: One for Elizabeth... Jecel <jecel@merlintec.com> - 2014-04-23 15:37 -0700
      Re: One for Elizabeth... Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-04-24 01:20 +0200
        Re: One for Elizabeth... anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-04-24 17:24 +0000
          Re: One for Elizabeth... "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-04-25 00:22 -0400
            Re: One for Elizabeth... Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-04-25 00:53 -0700
            Re: One for Elizabeth... Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-04-25 05:16 -0700
            Re: One for Elizabeth... anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-04-25 10:19 +0000
              Re: One for Elizabeth... Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-04-25 09:40 -0500
                Re: One for Elizabeth... anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-04-25 15:01 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-04-25 10:57 -0500
                Re: One for Elizabeth... anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-04-25 16:58 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-04-26 07:52 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-04-25 09:01 -1000
        Re: One for Elizabeth... Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 01:17 -0700
      Re: One for Elizabeth... Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 01:16 -0700
    Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-04-23 22:12 -0700
      Re: One for Elizabeth... Shark8 <OneWingedShark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-24 11:02 -0600
        Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-04-24 19:21 -0700
          Re: One for Elizabeth... Shark8 <OneWingedShark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-24 21:52 -0600
        Re: One for Elizabeth... "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-04-25 00:27 -0400
      Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-04-24 20:24 -0700
    Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-04-24 19:40 -0700
      Re: One for Elizabeth... Shark8 <OneWingedShark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-24 21:57 -0600
      Re: One for Elizabeth... "Bill Leary" <Bill_Leary@msn.com> - 2014-04-25 21:04 -0400
        Re: One for Elizabeth... Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2014-04-25 15:57 -1000
          Re: One for Elizabeth... Steve Graham <jsgrahamus@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-26 11:49 -0700
            Re: One for Elizabeth... "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-04-26 10:30 -1000
          Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-04-27 17:55 -0700
            Re: One for Elizabeth... stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-04-28 11:33 +0000
              Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-04-28 20:53 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-04-29 07:46 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-04-28 21:57 -1000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-01 20:59 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-05-02 07:46 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-02 20:31 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-05-03 08:26 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-03 19:33 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-04 03:35 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-04 11:06 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-05 01:11 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-05 20:45 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Rob Sciuk <rob@controlq.com> - 2014-05-06 12:53 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Assad Ebrahim <assad.ebrahim@alum.swarthmore.edu> - 2014-05-07 09:59 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 12:12 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-05-08 02:05 +0200
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-10 23:01 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-05 20:58 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... AKK <akk@nospam.org> - 2014-05-06 07:16 +0200
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-05 20:52 -1000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 01:17 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-05-06 11:13 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-05-06 07:12 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-05-06 10:57 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-06 17:06 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 07:52 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2014-05-06 17:11 +0200
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 08:57 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-07 00:38 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-07 22:56 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 04:10 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... thomas.worthington@london.ac.uk - 2014-05-08 04:42 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 11:17 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-07 00:31 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-07 00:23 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-07 02:29 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-07 13:39 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-08 01:26 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-08 04:11 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-08 08:34 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-08 11:04 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-08 17:28 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 02:55 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-09 10:42 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-09 19:59 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-09 20:25 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-11 05:24 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2014-05-12 22:08 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-12 22:11 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-13 22:37 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-05-14 04:09 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Stefan Mauerhofer <smauerhofer@androsoft.ch> - 2014-05-14 04:44 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 05:05 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-14 20:53 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 01:08 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-18 22:23 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Whammo <sidciavic@gmail.com> - 2014-05-19 09:48 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-21 19:50 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-05-22 00:46 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-05-19 22:37 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-21 23:58 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-21 19:24 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-05-22 11:05 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-22 23:19 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-05-23 11:34 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-26 11:44 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-27 14:20 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 10:30 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-27 19:58 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-28 07:45 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-05-28 03:03 -0500
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-28 16:36 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 23:03 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-29 11:01 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-05-30 16:44 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-29 08:25 -1000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-21 23:32 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-26 11:15 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-27 19:42 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-27 20:23 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-28 09:14 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-28 16:25 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-29 20:47 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-29 20:28 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-30 22:24 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-30 21:49 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-05-29 23:40 +0200
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-29 19:47 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-05-08 14:36 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-08 10:46 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-07 22:24 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Rob Sciuk <rob@controlq.com> - 2014-05-04 13:46 -0400

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