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On Mon, 19 May 2014 01:23:35 -0400, <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> wrote:

> This is really strong evidence for Forth-200x being a cult --- only
> in a cult can the leader say that she doesn't know what on Earth
> technology is for, and have her followers call this "brilliant" and go  
> on to parrot her word-for-word.

Has proclaiming a cult to be a cult ever incited any member to
not drink the magic elixir?  No, they all drink it ...  The personal
consequences of drinking it are irrelevant to the chosen ones because
of their faith.  Of course, it's obvious to everyone else, after the
fact, that their faith is what was unfounded.  Did I hear a distant
echo of someone proclaiming that faith is a good thing for humanity?
Faith simply hides the truth or prevents those who should or could
otherwise recognize truth from doing so.  But, no faith ranks higher
than the truth.  This is why logic and reason are so important to
humanity and so threatening to religion.  They eliminate ignorance,
especially the ignorance resulting from faith.  This means that
those who are ignorant are that way by their own choice, not because
they are forced to be ignorant by others, and not because they are
forced to believe in something they don't.

> Everybody is ignorant on a wide variety of subjects. What distinguishes
> an ignoramus however, is that the ignoramus is proud of being ignorant.
> The ignoramus believes that his or her ignorance of a subject proves
> that the subject is useless. By declaring ignorance of a subject, the
> ignoramus places him or herself above the great many people who have
> invested time and effort in learning the subject, effectively saying
> their their time and effort was wasted because the subject is useless
> anyway.

How do you quantify ignorance of someone other than yourself?  Could you
be simply declaring people to be ignorant because they've declared some
such subject you value as useless?  I would think that's so, but doing
that doesn't necessarily mean they are ignorant of the subject.

Was the time and effort of someone who learned calculus wasted once
they learned Laplace transforms?  I would strongly argue it was ...

> (when Philippe Kahn was asked if Borland would produce a Forth compiler,
> he said: "Forth is a religion, not a programming language.")

You're familiar with movie jokes about women, yes?
"I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability."

How does one define a programming language?  Now, take all that away.
Take away the syntax, the type system, the standard library, the code
generation, the optimization, etc ...  What are you left with?  Forth.

While that was a joke, it's also the truth.  Forth is simply lacking
everything that defines most other languages, both successful languages
and blatant failures.  So, if you don't "get it", "see it", or "grasp it",
after that joke, I can't help you.  You're blind to the truth, perhaps
willfully and permanently so.

> "kewl" is a spelling that Passaniti used routinely. Isn't this purely
> homosexual terminology? Outside of comp.lang.forth, I've never known any
> straight person to use this word. Can anybody define this word and give
> an example of it being used without gay overtones?

No.

Unfortunately, according to Usenet archives, a _bunch_ of notable others
here use "kewl" too.  I'm not going to name them.  They're probably not
gay as you would most likely imply they are, simply because they happened
to use the word "kewl" once.  It's very "Euro".  No, I'm not on that list,
if we exclude this reply to you on the topic.

It seems that you're on the correct track.  A *large* abundance of gay
porn sites come up when you search for "kewl" and sex terms, but not
many "straight" porn websites.  So, why were you trolling the gay porn
sites?  Was it to pick up the lingo or someone?  Hugh, twinks are illegal.
BTW, the gaytaxicab.com domain is already taken as well as most of the
gaytaxicabdriver domains.  If you're gay, I'm sorry to burst your bubble.
Of course, if it happens they're registered to Passaniti, well, then,
maybe, you two are in luck ...  If you're not gay, then I hope the fact
that there are gay websites dedicated to those who sexually fantasize
about people in your job occupation creeps you out.  Maybe, that's why
the "closeted" "metrosexual" guys tip you so well? ...  Did I hear an
"Eww...."?  Yeah, that's a an especially vile "Eww..." if you've ever
been to New York city and _experienced_ some of the fat, ugly, foul,
stinky, and repulsive taxicab drivers there.  I can't even imagine a
gay man wanting to have sex with some of them, or fantasizing about it.
Horrid!


Rod Pemberton

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One for Elizabeth... Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-04-22 03:02 -0700
  Re: One for Elizabeth... "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-04-22 09:04 -1000
    Re: One for Elizabeth... Jecel <jecel@merlintec.com> - 2014-04-23 15:37 -0700
      Re: One for Elizabeth... Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-04-24 01:20 +0200
        Re: One for Elizabeth... anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-04-24 17:24 +0000
          Re: One for Elizabeth... "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-04-25 00:22 -0400
            Re: One for Elizabeth... Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-04-25 00:53 -0700
            Re: One for Elizabeth... Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-04-25 05:16 -0700
            Re: One for Elizabeth... anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-04-25 10:19 +0000
              Re: One for Elizabeth... Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-04-25 09:40 -0500
                Re: One for Elizabeth... anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-04-25 15:01 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-04-25 10:57 -0500
                Re: One for Elizabeth... anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-04-25 16:58 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-04-26 07:52 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-04-25 09:01 -1000
        Re: One for Elizabeth... Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 01:17 -0700
      Re: One for Elizabeth... Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 01:16 -0700
    Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-04-23 22:12 -0700
      Re: One for Elizabeth... Shark8 <OneWingedShark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-24 11:02 -0600
        Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-04-24 19:21 -0700
          Re: One for Elizabeth... Shark8 <OneWingedShark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-24 21:52 -0600
        Re: One for Elizabeth... "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-04-25 00:27 -0400
      Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-04-24 20:24 -0700
    Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-04-24 19:40 -0700
      Re: One for Elizabeth... Shark8 <OneWingedShark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-24 21:57 -0600
      Re: One for Elizabeth... "Bill Leary" <Bill_Leary@msn.com> - 2014-04-25 21:04 -0400
        Re: One for Elizabeth... Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2014-04-25 15:57 -1000
          Re: One for Elizabeth... Steve Graham <jsgrahamus@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-26 11:49 -0700
            Re: One for Elizabeth... "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-04-26 10:30 -1000
          Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-04-27 17:55 -0700
            Re: One for Elizabeth... stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-04-28 11:33 +0000
              Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-04-28 20:53 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-04-29 07:46 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-04-28 21:57 -1000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-01 20:59 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-05-02 07:46 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-02 20:31 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-05-03 08:26 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-03 19:33 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-04 03:35 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-04 11:06 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-05 01:11 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-05 20:45 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Rob Sciuk <rob@controlq.com> - 2014-05-06 12:53 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Assad Ebrahim <assad.ebrahim@alum.swarthmore.edu> - 2014-05-07 09:59 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 12:12 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-05-08 02:05 +0200
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-10 23:01 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-05 20:58 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... AKK <akk@nospam.org> - 2014-05-06 07:16 +0200
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-05 20:52 -1000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 01:17 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-05-06 11:13 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-05-06 07:12 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-05-06 10:57 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-06 17:06 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 07:52 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2014-05-06 17:11 +0200
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 08:57 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-07 00:38 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-07 22:56 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 04:10 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... thomas.worthington@london.ac.uk - 2014-05-08 04:42 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 11:17 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-07 00:31 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-07 00:23 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-07 02:29 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-07 13:39 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-08 01:26 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-08 04:11 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-08 08:34 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-08 11:04 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-08 17:28 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 02:55 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-09 10:42 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-09 19:59 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-09 20:25 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-11 05:24 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2014-05-12 22:08 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-12 22:11 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-13 22:37 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-05-14 04:09 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Stefan Mauerhofer <smauerhofer@androsoft.ch> - 2014-05-14 04:44 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 05:05 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-14 20:53 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 01:08 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-18 22:23 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Whammo <sidciavic@gmail.com> - 2014-05-19 09:48 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-21 19:50 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-05-22 00:46 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-05-19 22:37 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-21 23:58 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-21 19:24 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-05-22 11:05 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-22 23:19 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-05-23 11:34 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-26 11:44 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-27 14:20 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 10:30 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-27 19:58 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-28 07:45 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-05-28 03:03 -0500
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-28 16:36 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 23:03 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-29 11:01 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-05-30 16:44 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-29 08:25 -1000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-21 23:32 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-26 11:15 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-27 19:42 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-27 20:23 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-28 09:14 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-28 16:25 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-29 20:47 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-29 20:28 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-30 22:24 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-30 21:49 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-05-29 23:40 +0200
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-29 19:47 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-05-08 14:36 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-08 10:46 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-07 22:24 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Rob Sciuk <rob@controlq.com> - 2014-05-04 13:46 -0400

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