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From "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm>
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Subject Re: One for Elizabeth...
Date Fri, 25 Apr 2014 00:22:58 -0400
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 13:24:01 -0400, Anton Ertl  
<anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
> Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> writes:

>> In this case, it's even worse: the more people you have, the less
>> secure it will be.
>
> Not necessarily: Have one guy write the code, and let the other 999 do
> code audits, demonstrate exploits etc.  Of course there is the problem
> that the feedback from the 999 overwhelms the one guy (including false
> positives), but I guess with appropriate management practices this can
> be handled.
>

I don't understand that claim at all.  Generally, companies pay the best
and brightest they can get who program to program.  So, code auditors
clearly aren't the best and brightest.  Otherwise, they'd be programming.
Does having 999 chimpanzees check the work of Einstein prove anything?
I.e., the things missing from this relationship are: intelligence,
experience, skills, and the correct order and balance between them.


Rod Pemberton

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One for Elizabeth... Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-04-22 03:02 -0700
  Re: One for Elizabeth... "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-04-22 09:04 -1000
    Re: One for Elizabeth... Jecel <jecel@merlintec.com> - 2014-04-23 15:37 -0700
      Re: One for Elizabeth... Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-04-24 01:20 +0200
        Re: One for Elizabeth... anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-04-24 17:24 +0000
          Re: One for Elizabeth... "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-04-25 00:22 -0400
            Re: One for Elizabeth... Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-04-25 00:53 -0700
            Re: One for Elizabeth... Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-04-25 05:16 -0700
            Re: One for Elizabeth... anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-04-25 10:19 +0000
              Re: One for Elizabeth... Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-04-25 09:40 -0500
                Re: One for Elizabeth... anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-04-25 15:01 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-04-25 10:57 -0500
                Re: One for Elizabeth... anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-04-25 16:58 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-04-26 07:52 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-04-25 09:01 -1000
        Re: One for Elizabeth... Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 01:17 -0700
      Re: One for Elizabeth... Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 01:16 -0700
    Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-04-23 22:12 -0700
      Re: One for Elizabeth... Shark8 <OneWingedShark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-24 11:02 -0600
        Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-04-24 19:21 -0700
          Re: One for Elizabeth... Shark8 <OneWingedShark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-24 21:52 -0600
        Re: One for Elizabeth... "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-04-25 00:27 -0400
      Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-04-24 20:24 -0700
    Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-04-24 19:40 -0700
      Re: One for Elizabeth... Shark8 <OneWingedShark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-24 21:57 -0600
      Re: One for Elizabeth... "Bill Leary" <Bill_Leary@msn.com> - 2014-04-25 21:04 -0400
        Re: One for Elizabeth... Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2014-04-25 15:57 -1000
          Re: One for Elizabeth... Steve Graham <jsgrahamus@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-26 11:49 -0700
            Re: One for Elizabeth... "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-04-26 10:30 -1000
          Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-04-27 17:55 -0700
            Re: One for Elizabeth... stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-04-28 11:33 +0000
              Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-04-28 20:53 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-04-29 07:46 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-04-28 21:57 -1000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-01 20:59 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-05-02 07:46 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-02 20:31 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-05-03 08:26 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-03 19:33 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-04 03:35 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-04 11:06 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-05 01:11 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-05 20:45 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Rob Sciuk <rob@controlq.com> - 2014-05-06 12:53 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Assad Ebrahim <assad.ebrahim@alum.swarthmore.edu> - 2014-05-07 09:59 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 12:12 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-05-08 02:05 +0200
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-10 23:01 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-05 20:58 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... AKK <akk@nospam.org> - 2014-05-06 07:16 +0200
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-05 20:52 -1000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 01:17 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-05-06 11:13 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-05-06 07:12 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-05-06 10:57 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-06 17:06 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 07:52 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2014-05-06 17:11 +0200
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 08:57 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-07 00:38 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-07 22:56 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 04:10 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... thomas.worthington@london.ac.uk - 2014-05-08 04:42 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 11:17 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-07 00:31 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-07 00:23 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-07 02:29 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-07 13:39 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-08 01:26 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-08 04:11 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-08 08:34 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-08 11:04 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-08 17:28 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 02:55 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-09 10:42 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-09 19:59 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-09 20:25 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Laurent Laborde <kerdezixe@gmail.com> - 2014-05-11 05:24 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2014-05-12 22:08 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-12 22:11 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-13 22:37 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-05-14 04:09 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Stefan Mauerhofer <smauerhofer@androsoft.ch> - 2014-05-14 04:44 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 05:05 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-14 20:53 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 01:08 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-18 22:23 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Whammo <sidciavic@gmail.com> - 2014-05-19 09:48 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-21 19:50 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-05-22 00:46 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-05-19 22:37 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-21 23:58 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-21 19:24 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-05-22 11:05 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-22 23:19 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-05-23 11:34 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-26 11:44 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-27 14:20 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 10:30 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-27 19:58 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-28 07:45 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-05-28 03:03 -0500
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-28 16:36 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 23:03 -0400
                Re: One for Elizabeth... visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-29 11:01 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-05-30 16:44 +0000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-29 08:25 -1000
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-21 23:32 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-26 11:15 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-27 19:42 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-27 20:23 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-28 09:14 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-28 16:25 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-29 20:47 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-29 20:28 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-05-30 22:24 +0100
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-30 21:49 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-05-29 23:40 +0200
                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-29 19:47 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-05-08 14:36 +0100
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                Re: One for Elizabeth... hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-05-07 22:24 -0700
                Re: One for Elizabeth... Rob Sciuk <rob@controlq.com> - 2014-05-04 13:46 -0400

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