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Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup

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On 3/26/2017 2:09 AM, rickman wrote:
> On 3/25/2017 6:32 PM, Cecil Bayona wrote:
>> On 3/25/2017 4:23 PM, rickman wrote:
>>> On 3/25/2017 4:33 PM, Cecil Bayona wrote:
>>>> On 3/25/2017 3:24 PM, rickman wrote:
>>>>> I created a Yahoo group for Mecrisp users.  If you are using
>>>>> Mecrisp or
>>>>> are interested in using Mecrisp you can discuss your project, usage
>>>>> and
>>>>> ideas at the link below.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MecrispForth/info
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm thinking not all Mecrisp users use c.l.f.  Now all I have to do is
>>>>> reach them.  lol
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Big mistake not requiring members to be approved, you are going to get
>>>> spammers.
>>>
>>> Thank you for that reminder.  I don't approve new members, but new
>>> members' posts will be moderated until they are shown to not be
>>> spammers.  I don't think we will have much trouble with members needing
>>> moderation other than excluding spammers.  I'm not interested in the
>>> work of moderating.  I don't expect this group to attract too many
>>> members, but you never know.
>>>
>>
>> Moderating is not difficult, but spammers left on their own will create
>> many accounts and then bombard the list with spam, one can't delete them
>> quickly enough if the can create a new account without any barriers.
>>
>> Time will tell, I have belonged to groups that were rendered useless
>> until the owners started moderating new user comments and new accounts.
>> I'm one of the owners of a list with over 10000 members and its not bad
>> to keep an eye on things.
>
> I already explained to you that I have moderation on new members.  I
> have a dozen Yahoo groups that work this way and hardly hear from
> spammers.  When they realize their posts will be moderated they go away.
>  I even took over a group that was dead from spammers.  I turned on
> moderation on new members and killed any existing members who spammed.
> After a while the spamming all stopped and even the new attempts dropped
> off to nearly nothing.
>
> I will say that over the years most of the groups have gone into disuse.
>  Mostly because the topics have become less interesting or obsolete.  I
> have an ArmForth group that is essentially visited by one poster who
> simply uploads his work to the files section.  He never really documents
> his work so not many people utilize it, but some do.  Once in a while
> someone asks a question about his stuff and I don't think I've seen a
> reply.
>
> I'm hoping the Mecrisp group will have a bit more success.  I'd like to
> see Mecrisp acquire more documentation.  Some of that can come from
> conversations about what people find hard to use or understand.
>
Well if it has work fine then that is that, in a group I moderate I've 
caught a few spammers trying to sign up, a clue is that they don't want 
any emails so why sign up? Anyway after a short while they stopped 
trying and all is well now.

I moderate a Yahoo Group that was useless with SPAM, the owner was not 
keeping up with it, I appealed to him to allow multiple moderators to 
handle the load and he went with it, now it took about a week, deleted 
all the spammers and set the first comment from new users to be 
moderated, and the group is all cleaned up now, no SPAM at all.

I've tried to convince people to move the group away from Yahoo as this 
group has an excellent history of comments and files that could be lost 
at a moments notice since Yahoo is trying to sell it's groups but to no 
avail, everyone wants to wait and see, so I stopped worrying about it, I 
have always kept copies of all emails that are important to me going 
back to 1991.


-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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Mecrisp Forth Startup rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 14:42 -0400
  Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 15:37 -0400
  Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 22:37 -0400
    Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup Matthias Koch <matthias.koch@hot.uni-hannover.de> - 2017-03-27 15:27 +0200
      Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 10:56 -0400
  Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 16:24 -0400
    Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-25 15:33 -0500
      Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 17:23 -0400
        Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-25 17:32 -0500
          Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 03:09 -0400
            Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 02:50 -0700
              Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 07:56 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-26 11:04 -0700
              Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-26 13:24 -0500
                Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 14:45 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-26 14:16 -0500
                Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-26 14:53 -0500
                Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 02:16 -0700
                Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 12:51 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 12:56 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-29 12:24 -0500
                Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-29 12:32 -0500
                Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 14:15 -0400
            Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-26 13:44 -0500
    Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-25 14:42 -0700
      Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-03 11:30 +0100
  Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-26 13:56 -0500
    Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 16:29 -0400
      Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-31 16:49 -0500
        Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 18:16 -0400
  Re: Mecrisp Forth Startup rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 13:19 -0400

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