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Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad

From Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad
Date 2016-12-11 13:25 -0800
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november.nihal@gmail.com writes:
> If quotations are quoted lists, are all quoted lists quotations ?  ...
> The power of quotations is you can manipulate a list and thus the
> sequence of the code with ease.

I don't understand the bit about quotations being quoted lists.  Do you
mean like in Lisp?  That's certainly not a necessary characteristic.  I
thought a Forth quotation was just supposed to be a function pointer
made from an anonymous code block, that could appear in the middle of a
colon definition.  Lots of other languages have features like that and
it's useful.  Whether it's a good fit for Forth is more debatable.

> Given we are talking about quotations within the context of forth, I
> think :noname is a poor substitute.

Afaict, quotations per the ANS proposal are a straightforward syntactic
convenience--quotations that can reach outer scopes for locals are more
powerful but much harder to implement.

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Object-Oriented Programming is Bad Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-12-07 03:23 -0800
  Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2016-12-07 09:06 -0800
    Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-12-09 11:03 +1100
      Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2016-12-09 00:17 +0000
        Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-12-10 10:14 +1100
          Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-09 19:54 -0800
            Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad "Robert L." <No_spamming@noWhere_7073.org> - 2016-12-10 06:44 +0000
              Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-12-10 00:37 -0800
              Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-11 06:39 -0800
          Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-12-10 03:38 -0600
            Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad november.nihal@gmail.com - 2016-12-11 08:57 -0800
              Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-11 10:19 -0800
              Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-11 13:25 -0800
                Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-11 17:39 -0800
                Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad november.nihal@gmail.com - 2016-12-11 17:49 -0800
                Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-11 20:31 -0800
                Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad november.nihal@gmail.com - 2016-12-12 07:01 -0800
                Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-11 21:50 -0800
    Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-12-11 06:20 -0800
  Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-07 09:26 -0800
  Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-12-07 11:44 -0600
    Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-12-08 09:58 +0000
      Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad Bernd Paysan <bernd@net2o.de> - 2016-12-21 21:18 +0000
        Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad gavinschuette@gmail.com - 2016-12-21 23:00 -0800
  Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-12-21 09:41 -0800
  Re: Object-Oriented Programming is Bad gavinschuette@gmail.com - 2016-12-21 23:00 -0800

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