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| From | Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: imagine forth replacing java and .net in huge telcom |
| Date | 2016-10-27 19:13 -0400 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <20161027191355.7e4e827d@_> (permalink) |
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On Tue, 25 Oct 2016 06:06:48 -0700 (PDT) polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> wrote: > On Monday, October 24, 2016 at 6:18:44 PM UTC-4, > foxaudio...@gmail.com wrote: > > Ok, here is a little business lesson, for free. Business success > > comes from a "stack" so to speak, of components that consists of > > Product, Pricing, placement (where it sells from) and promotion > > (marketing). These are called the four "Ps". > > > > Notwithstanding the fact that reproducing competitive versions of > > the product list you outlined would take a big team (Wages) to > > build, at the end of the day the product is at most 25% of the > > success factors, despite what some engineers believe. And > > marketing, real marketing, (means investing money that generates > > measurable business) is the biggest investment typically. > > > > So when you have all that in place and are looking for funding, let > > us know. Someone here might invest ... If the management team has > > a track record. That's the 5th "P". People! > > > > BF > > > > PS After this one my regular rates apply. > > I hope you can program because if you sell biz advice you obviously > live in dads basement still. <OT> The 4Ps come from business school courses. There is also the 8Ps, a larger list which includes the 4Ps. In addition to the 4Ps and 8Ps, there are the 6Ms, 5Ms, 4Ss, 4Ss, 3Ks, and two 5Cs. Some of these come from production management systems. The Ps have to do with product. The Cs have to do with customers. The Ms have to do with marketing or manufacturing. The Ss have to do with the suppliers or Japanese workplace organization, especially a precursor to modern JIT manufacturing. The Toyota production system also came up with the seven types of waste (not listed). 5Cs - company, customers, competitors, collaborators, climate 5Cs - customers, cash flow, credit, credibility, capital 4Ps - place, price, product, promotion 8Ps - product, price, place, promotion, people, process, physical evidence, publicity 6Ms - mission, market, message, money, method, monitoring 5Ms - machine, method, material, manpower, measurement 4Ss - surroundings, suppliers, systems, skills 5Ss - (workplace organization) - seiri, seiton, seiso, seiketsu, shitsuke - sort, set in order, shine, standardize, sustain 3Ks - (Toyota production) - kaizen, kanban, kaikaku - continuous improvement, radical change, billboard scheduling There are other acronyms out there for various business concepts. I'll let you figure out what the business concept is by reading them. You can probably guess as to all of them except maybe the last one. SWAN - smart, works, ambitious, nice PDCA - plan, do, check, adjust SWOT - strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, threats PEST - political, economic, social, technological DMAIC - define, measure, analyze, improve, control DMADV - define, measure, analyze, design, verify VRIO - variable, rare, imitable, organization Rod Pemberton
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imagine forth replacing java and .net in huge telcom polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-10-24 13:30 -0700
imagine forth replacing java and .net in huge telcom foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2016-10-24 15:18 -0700
Re: imagine forth replacing java and .net in huge telcom hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-10-25 02:32 -0700
Re: imagine forth replacing java and .net in huge telcom hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-10-25 02:38 -0700
Re: imagine forth replacing java and .net in huge telcom polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 06:04 -0700
Re: imagine forth replacing java and .net in huge telcom polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 06:04 -0700
Re: imagine forth replacing java and .net in huge telcom polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 06:06 -0700
Re: imagine forth replacing java and .net in huge telcom foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2016-10-25 11:11 -0700
Re: imagine forth replacing java and .net in huge telcom polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-10-25 19:58 -0700
Re: imagine forth replacing java and .net in huge telcom foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2016-10-25 21:29 -0700
Re: imagine forth replacing java and .net in huge telcom polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 12:39 -0700
Re: imagine forth replacing java and .net in huge telcom Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2016-10-27 19:13 -0400
Re: imagine forth replacing java and .net in huge telcom polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 12:39 -0700
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