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Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`)

From anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`)
Date 2015-10-29 16:13 +0000
Organization Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
Message-ID <2015Oct29.171325@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink)
References (5 earlier) <2015Oct27.180941@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <5630c0b8.248998702@news.eternal-september.org> <n0r81b$ncv$1@dont-email.me> <563154cd.286908193@news.eternal-september.org> <2015Oct29.110043@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at>

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anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) writes:
[Separate FP stack standardized in Forth-2012]
>And as a consequence,
>programmers can now more easily write standard programs (without
>environmental dependencies), and these programs run faster than
>Forth-94 programs for the same task.  Just to remind you:
>
>|                                Forth-2012  Forth-94
>|500x500 mm - normal algorithm     0.570s     0.727s
>|500x500 mm - transposed B matrix  0.550s     0.686s
>|500x500 mm - Robert's algorithm   0.547s     0.684s

On the same machine with VFX-4.71 and Ndp387.fth:

                                  Forth-2012  Forth-94            
500x500 mm - normal algorithm       0.220s     0.230s
500x500 mm - transposed B matrix    0.210s     0.220s
500x500 mm - Robert's algorithm     0.210s     0.220s

So the separate stack is faster than the Forth-94 way to program FP on
VFX, too.

Command lines:

vfxlin-4.71 "include /nfs/nfstmp/anton/VfxLinEval-4.71/Lib/Ndp387.fth include /nfs/nfstmp/anton/VfxLinEval-4.71/Lib/fsl/library/Vfx4Util.fth include mm.fth ddot-tests bye"
vfxlin-4.71 "include /nfs/nfstmp/anton/VfxLinEval-4.71/Lib/Ndp387.fth include /nfs/nfstmp/anton/VfxLinEval-4.71/Lib/fsl/library/Vfx4Util.fth create use-forth94 include mm.fth ddot-tests bye"

I can provide mm.fth if anybody is interested.

Here's the two implementations of DDOT and the code VFX generates for
the DO LOOP in them:

    [defined] use-forth94 [if]
	: DDOT ( addr1 inc1 addr2 inc2 count -- r )
	    SWAP DFLOATS >R ROT DFLOATS R>
	    LOCALS| inc2 inc1 count addr2 addr1 |
	    0E0 count 0
	    ?DO addr1 DUP inc1 + TO addr1 DF@
		addr2 DUP inc2 + TO addr2 DF@ F* F+
	    LOOP ;
    [else]
	: DDOT ( addr1 inc1 addr2 inc2 count -- ) ( F: -- n )
	    SWAP DFLOATS >R  ROT DFLOATS R> LOCALS| inc2 inc1 |
	    0e 0 ?DO  SWAP DUP DF@ inc1 +  
		SWAP DUP DF@ inc2 +  
		F* F+   
	    LOOP  2DROP ;
    [then]

Forth-2012                  Forth-94
MOV   EDX, [EBP]            MOV   EDX, [EDI+18] 
FLD   DOUBLE 0 [EDX]        MOV   ECX, [EDI+0C] 
ADD   EDX, [EDI+0C]         ADD   ECX, EDX      
FLD   DOUBLE 0 [EBX]        MOV   [EDI+18], ECX 
ADD   EBX, [EDI+08]         FLD   DOUBLE 0 [EDX]
FMULP ST(1), ST             MOV   EDX, [EDI+14] 
FADDP ST(1), ST             MOV   ECX, [EDI+08] 
ADD   [ESP], 01             ADD   ECX, EDX      
ADD   [ESP+04], 01          MOV   [EDI+14], ECX 
MOV   [EBP], EDX            FLD   DOUBLE 0 [EDX]
JNO   080C93F0              FMULP ST(1), ST     
                            FADDP ST(1), ST     
                            ADD   [ESP], 01     
                            ADD   [ESP+04], 01  
                            JNO   080C9430      

Surprising that the performance difference is so small.  Maybe the
machine is waiting for the L3 cache much of the time.

- anton
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alternatives to `find` Marcos Cruz <use_the_contact_page@programandala.net> - 2015-10-21 20:09 +0000
  Re: alternatives to `find` anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-22 05:54 +0000
    Re: alternatives to `find` Marcos Cruz <use_the_contact_page@programandala.net> - 2015-10-22 15:37 +0000
      Re: alternatives to `find` Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 22:03 -0700
        Re: alternatives to `find` Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 22:14 -0700
          Re: alternatives to `find` hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-23 01:28 -0700
          Re: alternatives to `find` Marcos Cruz <use_the_contact_page@programandala.net> - 2015-10-23 12:12 +0000
          Re: alternatives to `find` anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-26 11:39 +0000
            Re: alternatives to `find` Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 05:14 -0700
        Re: alternatives to `find` Marcos Cruz <use_the_contact_page@programandala.net> - 2015-10-23 12:30 +0000
          Re: alternatives to `find` Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-10-23 22:52 -0700
            Re: alternatives to `find` Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-10-23 23:14 -0700
            Re: alternatives to `find` Marcos Cruz <use_the_contact_page@programandala.net> - 2015-10-24 11:15 +0000
              Re: alternatives to `find` Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-10-24 14:34 +0200
                Re: alternatives to `find` anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-24 14:45 +0000
                Re: alternatives to `find` Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-10-24 17:23 +0200
            Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Marcos Cruz <use_the_contact_page@programandala.net> - 2015-10-24 11:53 +0000
              Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-10-24 22:48 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-10-24 21:05 -1000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-10-25 01:34 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-10-24 22:45 -1000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-25 09:16 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-10-25 08:46 -1000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-25 21:31 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-10-25 18:50 +0100
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 01:57 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-26 02:07 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 11:14 +0200
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 04:18 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-10-26 09:22 -1000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-26 21:34 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-26 10:58 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 05:59 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-10-26 14:58 +0100
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-27 17:09 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-10-28 12:50 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-28 15:56 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-28 10:31 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-10-28 19:26 +0100
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-28 12:37 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-10-28 23:03 +0000
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                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-10-28 23:13 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-10-29 03:01 +0100
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-10-29 10:04 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-29 15:29 +0000
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                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-10-30 11:36 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-31 15:25 +0000
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                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-02 11:12 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-11-02 12:09 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 05:09 -0800
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 06:23 -0800
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-02 14:39 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-11-20 16:20 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 00:26 -0800
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-31 15:03 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-10-31 16:35 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-01 14:07 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-01 21:05 +0100
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-10-31 16:31 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-10-31 20:33 +0100
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-10-29 22:27 +0100
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-29 13:19 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-29 10:00 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-10-29 13:29 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-29 14:04 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-10-29 16:29 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-29 16:42 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-29 16:13 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) mhx@iae.nl - 2015-10-29 12:19 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-31 14:12 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-10-31 16:49 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-31 10:33 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-01 14:14 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-25 21:52 -0700
          Re: alternatives to `find` Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-10-30 12:30 +0000
      Re: alternatives to `find` anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-26 11:47 +0000
  Re: alternatives to `find` Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 06:17 -0800
    Re: alternatives to `find` Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 06:35 -0800
    Re: alternatives to `find` Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-11-02 15:45 +0100
      Re: alternatives to `find` Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 07:17 -0800
        Re: alternatives to `find` Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-11-02 19:39 +0000
          Re: alternatives to `find` Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 12:19 -0800
          Re: alternatives to `find` anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-03 11:31 +0000
            Re: alternatives to `find` Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-11-03 21:11 +0000
              MOVE and CMOVE speed (was: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-04 09:52 +0000

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