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Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`)

From anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`)
Date 2015-11-01 14:07 +0000
Organization Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
Message-ID <2015Nov1.150744@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink)
References (6 earlier) <5631ea8e.325244440@news.eternal-september.org> <2015Oct29.162945@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <a48be84d-7fb3-435b-831b-ec1a187fb67b@googlegroups.com> <2015Oct31.160359@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <5634ed13.46667028@news.eternal-september.org>

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stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) writes:
>On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:03:59 GMT, anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at
>(Anton Ertl) wrote:
>
>>So Stephen Pelc actually wants
>>to, in his terms, keep his client's program disenfranchised by not
>>standardizing a feature that is extremely common practice among both
>>systems and programs.
>
>Another dash from the general to the specific by a misunderstanding
>of what I have said. Enlarging on misunderstanding leads to more
>incorrect statements.

Is this a tactic you learn in English debate clubs: Make a claim, and
when that claim is contradicted, claim that you were misunderstood,
but never ever state what the alternative understanding would be (I
suspect because there is no alternative understanding of the claim
that is defendable, either)?  Andrew Haley also used this tactic, and
therefore discussions with him were usually not constructive.

- anton
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alternatives to `find` Marcos Cruz <use_the_contact_page@programandala.net> - 2015-10-21 20:09 +0000
  Re: alternatives to `find` anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-22 05:54 +0000
    Re: alternatives to `find` Marcos Cruz <use_the_contact_page@programandala.net> - 2015-10-22 15:37 +0000
      Re: alternatives to `find` Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 22:03 -0700
        Re: alternatives to `find` Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 22:14 -0700
          Re: alternatives to `find` hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-23 01:28 -0700
          Re: alternatives to `find` Marcos Cruz <use_the_contact_page@programandala.net> - 2015-10-23 12:12 +0000
          Re: alternatives to `find` anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-26 11:39 +0000
            Re: alternatives to `find` Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 05:14 -0700
        Re: alternatives to `find` Marcos Cruz <use_the_contact_page@programandala.net> - 2015-10-23 12:30 +0000
          Re: alternatives to `find` Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-10-23 22:52 -0700
            Re: alternatives to `find` Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-10-23 23:14 -0700
            Re: alternatives to `find` Marcos Cruz <use_the_contact_page@programandala.net> - 2015-10-24 11:15 +0000
              Re: alternatives to `find` Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-10-24 14:34 +0200
                Re: alternatives to `find` anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-24 14:45 +0000
                Re: alternatives to `find` Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-10-24 17:23 +0200
            Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Marcos Cruz <use_the_contact_page@programandala.net> - 2015-10-24 11:53 +0000
              Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-10-24 22:48 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-10-24 21:05 -1000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-10-25 01:34 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-10-24 22:45 -1000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-25 09:16 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-10-25 08:46 -1000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-25 21:31 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-10-25 18:50 +0100
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 01:57 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-26 02:07 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 11:14 +0200
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 04:18 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-10-26 09:22 -1000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-26 21:34 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-26 10:58 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 05:59 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-10-26 14:58 +0100
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-27 17:09 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-10-28 12:50 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-28 15:56 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-28 10:31 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-10-28 19:26 +0100
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-28 12:37 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-10-28 23:03 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-28 16:21 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-10-28 20:37 +0100
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-10-28 23:13 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-10-29 03:01 +0100
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-10-29 10:04 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-29 15:29 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 04:17 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-10-30 11:36 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-31 15:25 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-10-31 20:34 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-10-30 20:51 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 01:39 -0800
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-02 11:12 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-11-02 12:09 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 05:09 -0800
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 06:23 -0800
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-02 14:39 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-11-20 16:20 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 00:26 -0800
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-31 15:03 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-10-31 16:35 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-01 14:07 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-01 21:05 +0100
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-10-31 16:31 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-10-31 20:33 +0100
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-10-29 22:27 +0100
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-29 13:19 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-29 10:00 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-10-29 13:29 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-29 14:04 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-10-29 16:29 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-29 16:42 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-29 16:13 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) mhx@iae.nl - 2015-10-29 12:19 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-31 14:12 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-10-31 16:49 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-31 10:33 -0700
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-01 14:14 +0000
                Re: Preserving standard and common use names (Re: alternatives to `find`) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-25 21:52 -0700
          Re: alternatives to `find` Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-10-30 12:30 +0000
      Re: alternatives to `find` anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-26 11:47 +0000
  Re: alternatives to `find` Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 06:17 -0800
    Re: alternatives to `find` Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 06:35 -0800
    Re: alternatives to `find` Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-11-02 15:45 +0100
      Re: alternatives to `find` Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 07:17 -0800
        Re: alternatives to `find` Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-11-02 19:39 +0000
          Re: alternatives to `find` Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 12:19 -0800
          Re: alternatives to `find` anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-03 11:31 +0000
            Re: alternatives to `find` Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-11-03 21:11 +0000
              MOVE and CMOVE speed (was: alternatives to `find`) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-04 09:52 +0000

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