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| Date | 2015-03-19 11:24 +0000 |
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| From | Jan Coombs <Jan-54 <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com>> |
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: What is greenarrays up to lately? |
| Message-ID | <20150319112440.0e202ee8@T60A> (permalink) |
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:26:53 -0400 rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote: > On 3/16/2015 3:42 PM, Jan Coombs <Jan-54 wrote: > > > > It's a bit more exciting if the simulation can export > > the design to the FPGA tools, then you are closer to > > having a chip. > > I'm not sure what that means. What design? The chip or the code? Both. The simulator consumes the source code for the hardware design. One file of which contains a simulation model for the target processor code ROM, and also FPGA chip family dependant code to initialize a matching RAM block on the chip. > I'm > not sure why the simulator is the right tool to be producing code. The > simulator is used to run the code you have produced. It is right because the development is test driven, and good because the edit-test loop is very short. In more detail: For each new feature a test is added to the test suite. Once a processor has grown to a certain size this might just mean adding a new target code fragment. The simulator [1] is used to perform a suite of tests to indicate that the last development step is not yet achieved, also, that achieving it has not broken the hardware design elsewhere. During a test run the simulator also exports Verilog and/or VHDL files for the chip tools. This adds confidence that the hardware source is valid. By occasionally running the FPGA tools it can be seen that the code is still synthesizable, and that chip dependent features are catered for, for example, RAM initialisation to hold the target code. That's why I feel "closer to having a chip" Test driven development for hardware is still new to me; I understand the theory, but still fiddle... :) [1] http://www.myhdl.org/start/why.html Jan Coombs. -- email valid, else fix dots and hyphen jan4clf2014@murrayhyphenmicroftdotcodotuk
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