Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE

From	anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE
Date	2014-12-17 09:58 +0000
Organization	Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
Message-ID	<2014Dec17.105817@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink)
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mix <mix@test.net> writes:
>I guess I was not really clear. If Forth is stateless (always compiling in
>case of TclForth) how it would handle words which are not suppose to be
>compiled in traditional Forths?
>
>Here is example:
>
>123 VALUE testValue
> ok
>HERE .
>4374119608  ok
>testValue
> ok
>HERE .
>4374119608  ok
>
>The word testValue was processed by translator while Forth was in
>interpretation state, thus it didn't change HERE. What will always
>compiling Forth do?

They typically compile to a separate buffer.  After executing the
stuff there, the buffer is reused.  I guess they implement HERE as
showing addresses in the dictionary and not in this buffer, otherwise
HERE would be mostly useless.

- anton
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TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Wolf Wejgaard <wolf@holonforth.com> - 2014-10-08 11:40 +0200
  Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-10-08 11:53 +0000
  Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Wolf Wejgaard <wolf@holonforth.com> - 2014-10-08 17:41 +0200
    Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Joachim Merkel <jm@7fun.de> - 2014-11-30 22:20 +0100
      Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Wolf Wejgaard <wolf@holonforth.com> - 2014-12-04 16:54 +0100
        Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE m.a.m.hendrix@tue.nl - 2014-12-05 00:05 -0800
          Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-12-04 22:47 -1000
            Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-12-05 19:04 +0100
              Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Wolf Wejgaard <wejgaard@gmail.com> - 2015-01-21 02:23 -0800
          Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Wolf Wejgaard <wolf@holonforth.com> - 2014-12-06 08:53 +0100
            Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE mhx@iae.nl - 2014-12-06 00:21 -0800
        Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-12-05 03:16 -0600
          Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Wolf Wejgaard <wolf@holonforth.com> - 2014-12-06 09:31 +0100
            Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-12-06 04:16 -0600
            Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-12-06 10:40 +0000
            Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-12-06 12:42 +0000
              Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Wolf Wejgaard <wejgaard@gmail.com> - 2015-01-21 02:26 -0800
            Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Joachim Merkel <jm412@gmx.de> - 2014-12-06 18:11 +0100
              Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Joachim Merkel <jm@g7up.de> - 2014-12-06 18:25 +0100
              Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Joachim Merkel <jm@7up.de> - 2014-12-06 18:42 +0100
            Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE mix <mix@test.net> - 2014-12-15 18:55 +0000
              Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-12-16 01:27 +0100
                Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-12-16 01:50 +0100
                Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE mix <mix@test.net> - 2014-12-16 05:04 +0000
                Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-12-16 04:08 -0600
                Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE mix <mix@test.net> - 2014-12-16 23:32 +0000
                Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-12-16 14:45 -1000
                Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE mix <mix@test.net> - 2014-12-17 06:01 +0000
                Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-12-16 22:21 -1000
                Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-12-17 02:24 -0600
                Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-12-16 23:07 -1000
                Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-12-17 08:21 -0600
                Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-12-17 08:57 -1000
                Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2014-12-17 04:52 -0800
                Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-12-17 09:58 +0000
                Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE mix <mix@test.net> - 2014-12-18 04:11 +0000
                Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE mix <mix@test.net> - 2014-12-18 04:16 +0000
                Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-12-17 02:11 -0600
                Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-12-17 13:17 +0000
                Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-12-17 06:24 -0800
        Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-12-05 03:19 -0600
          Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Wolf Wejgaard <wolf@holonforth.com> - 2014-12-06 09:31 +0100
            Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-12-06 04:19 -0600
            Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-12-08 01:14 -0500
  Re: TclForth Notes: Always Compiling, Forth without STATE the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2014-12-17 05:42 -0800

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