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Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1?

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First post2019-12-31 20:08 -0800
Last post2020-01-21 16:44 +0100
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  Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-31 20:08 -0800
    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-12-31 23:50 -0500
    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 03:28 -0800
      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 03:49 -0800
      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 13:26 +0100
        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 04:34 -0800
          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 13:56 +0100
            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 05:04 -0800
              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 14:18 +0100
                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-01 13:21 +0000
                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 14:26 +0100
            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-01 13:19 +0000
              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 14:24 +0100
                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-01 14:56 +0000
                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 16:06 +0100
                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-01 15:44 +0000
                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 16:54 +0100
                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 08:07 -0800
            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-01-01 14:19 +0000
              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 15:28 +0100
                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-01-02 11:06 +0000
    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-02 10:19 +0100
      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2020-01-02 13:33 +0000
        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-02 13:55 +0000
          Raku (Was: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1?) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2020-01-02 14:48 +0000
        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-02 15:03 +0100
          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-02 06:18 -0800
    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? m.nasim85@gmail.com - 2020-01-02 01:26 -0800
    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? F Russell <fr@random.info> - 2020-01-05 19:32 +0000
      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-05 12:25 -0800
        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? F Russell <fr@random.info> - 2020-01-07 00:33 +0000
          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 01:11 +0000
            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-06 22:32 -0800
              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 10:08 +0000
                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 06:24 -0800
                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 06:30 -0800
                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 06:42 -0800
                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 12:47 -0800
                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 21:20 +0000
                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2020-01-07 21:53 +0000
                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 14:01 -0800
                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 14:22 -0800
                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 22:31 +0000
                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-08 00:27 -0800
                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-08 08:13 -0800
                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 06:33 -0800
                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 06:38 -0800
                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 06:49 -0800
                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 16:38 +0000
                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 10:31 -0800
                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 10:44 -0800
                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-07 19:54 +0100
                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-11 10:24 -0800
                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-11 14:23 -0800
                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-21 04:21 -0800
                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-21 05:06 -0800
                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 10:59 -0800
                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 19:21 +0000
                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 11:36 -0800
          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Barry Schwarz <schwarzb@delq.com> - 2020-01-06 18:02 -0800
            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-07 10:55 +0100
          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-06 23:34 -0500
          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-06 22:30 -0800
      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2020-01-05 16:30 -0500
        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-06 02:07 -0800
          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-06 07:57 -0800
    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 08:03 +0100
      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 08:11 +0100
      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-01-07 10:09 +0000
        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 11:12 +0100
      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 11:09 +0000
        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 13:45 +0100
          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 13:06 +0000
            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 14:14 +0100
              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 16:27 +0000
                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 17:53 +0100
                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 08:55 -0800
        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 05:19 -0800
        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-11 19:11 +0100
          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-11 19:09 +0000
            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-11 20:18 +0100
              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-11 20:00 +0000
                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 07:02 +0100
                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 00:32 -0800
                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 09:38 +0100
                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 01:09 -0800
                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 10:48 +0100
                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 01:57 -0800
                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 11:02 +0100
                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 02:09 -0800
                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 12:45 +0100
                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 03:54 -0800
                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 13:13 +0100
                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 04:35 -0800
                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 13:38 +0100
                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 04:44 -0800
                                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 13:49 +0100
                                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 04:59 -0800
                                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 14:03 +0100
                                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 05:21 -0800
                                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 14:35 +0100
                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 05:46 -0800
                                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 15:11 +0100
                                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 06:41 -0800
                                                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 16:15 +0100
                                                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 08:11 -0800
                                                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 08:19 -0800
                                                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 17:42 +0100
                                                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 17:40 +0100
                                                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 09:04 -0800
                                                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 18:05 +0100
                                                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 09:13 -0800
                                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 18:16 +0100
                                                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 09:25 -0800
                                                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 18:26 +0100
                                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 09:21 -0800
                                                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 18:25 +0100
                                                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 09:31 -0800
                                                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 18:33 +0100
                                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-12 13:21 +0000
                                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-13 09:16 +0100
                                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 04:28 -0800
                                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 13:36 +0100
                                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2020-01-13 04:39 -0800
                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-13 15:22 +0100
                                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-13 05:10 -0800
                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 15:10 +0100
                                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-13 07:31 -0800
                                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 16:34 +0100
                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 06:59 -0800
                                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 16:32 +0100
                                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 17:17 +0100
                                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 18:13 +0100
                                                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 09:19 -0800
                                                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 18:22 +0100
                                                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 09:29 -0800
                                                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 18:34 +0100
                                                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 09:40 -0800
                                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 18:42 +0100
                                                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 09:56 -0800
                                                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 19:19 +0100
                                                                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 10:21 -0800
                                                                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 19:25 +0100
                                                                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 10:46 -0800
                                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 08:02 -0800
                                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-15 01:04 -0800
                                                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-15 01:25 -0800
                                                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-15 06:37 -0800
                                                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-15 10:49 -0800
                                                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-02-04 01:15 -0800
                                                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-02-04 01:48 -0800
                                                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-02-04 02:29 -0800
                                                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-02-04 03:05 -0800
                                                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-02-04 04:07 -0800
                                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-02-04 04:59 -0800
                                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 08:51 -0800
                                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-13 15:19 +0100
                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 06:47 -0800
                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 06:51 -0800
                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 09:35 -0800
                                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-13 21:48 +0100
                                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 12:54 -0800
                                                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 13:38 -0800
                                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-01-14 02:30 -0800
                                                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-14 02:40 -0800
                                                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-14 02:47 -0800
                                                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-14 03:52 -0800
                                                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-14 04:00 -0800
                                                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-14 14:20 +0100
                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 02:21 -0800
                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 12:50 +0100
                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 04:14 -0800
                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-12 14:23 +0000
                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 16:16 +0100
                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 08:13 -0800
                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 17:43 +0100
                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-12 17:42 +0000
                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 18:43 +0100
                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-12 18:04 +0000
                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 19:31 +0100
                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-12 21:18 +0000
                                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 13:53 -0800
                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 19:36 +0100
                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-12 20:56 +0000
                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 10:04 -0800
                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 02:05 -0800
                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 12:43 +0100
                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 03:46 -0800
                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 12:51 +0100
                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 03:58 -0800
                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 13:14 +0100
      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2020-01-07 13:03 +0000
    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-21 16:44 +0100

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#148976

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 14:35 +0100
Message-ID<qvf7bo$pgd$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#148975
> listen to old c master, you wont deserve to learn c you will not - so its quite honest, you wasted enough of my time

I've learned C 1989 on my Atari. Anyone able to understand programming
languages can learn C in a week as I did. When I first encountered C++
in 1993 I dropped C because I realized that C++ is the superior lan-
guage. And this was even before the first ISO C++-standard which lacked
essential features like exceptions and generic programming.

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#148977

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 05:46 -0800
Message-ID<67304a41-c866-4b72-821b-bafc2c0379c5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#148976
W dniu niedziela, 12 stycznia 2020 14:36:00 UTC+1 użytkownik Bonita Montero napisał:
> > listen to old c master, you wont deserve to learn c you will not - so its quite honest, you wasted enough of my time
> 
> I've learned C 1989 on my Atari. Anyone able to understand programming
> languages can learn C in a week as I did. When I first encountered C++
> in 1993 I dropped C because I realized that C++ is the superior lan-
> guage. And this was even before the first ISO C++-standard which lacked
> essential features like exceptions and generic programming.

Well, I ve lerned asm in 1990 (probably) on my Commodore.. wrote some demo in assembler on it (with rippeed music player from $c000 as a memopry block on irq) etc.. When i encountered c++ in my life (relatively late proabbly around 2001) i realized that it is a crap and stayed with c (superior-language)..later i wrote few nice things in it (green fire, sickle.c, org-asm, furia.exe) and developed its succesor codenamed c2/hipermodular c (that as to sad 
story of hard work..sadly not all 
things here are so sad, though some are even sadder)

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#148978

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 15:11 +0100
Message-ID<qvf9f8$jc6$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#148977
> Well, I ve lerned asm in 1990 (probably) on my Commodore.. wrote some demo in assembler on it (with rippeed music player from $c000 as a memopry block on irq) etc.. When i encountered c++ in my life (relatively late proabbly around 2001) i realized that it is a crap and stayed with c (superior-language)..later i wrote few nice things in it (green fire, sickle.c, org-asm, furia.exe) and developed its succesor codenamed c2/hipermodular c (that as to sad
> story of hard work..sadly not all^

You didn't encounter C++. You don't have a clue about it.

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#148980

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 06:41 -0800
Message-ID<462155be-4ed0-4e1d-b7e9-decdad718815@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#148978
W dniu niedziela, 12 stycznia 2020 15:12:01 UTC+1 użytkownik Bonita Montero napisał:
> > Well, I ve lerned asm in 1990 (probably) on my Commodore.. wrote some demo in assembler on it (with rippeed music player from $c000 as a memopry block on irq) etc.. When i encountered c++ in my life (relatively late proabbly around 2001) i realized that it is a crap and stayed with c (superior-language)..later i wrote few nice things in it (green fire, sickle.c, org-asm, furia.exe) and developed its succesor codenamed c2/hipermodular c (that as to sad
> > story of hard work..sadly not all^
> 
> You didn't encounter C++. You don't have a clue about it.

that kind of writink is makes you a dick hodgin like idiot

1) you postulate things which you dont prove (yust repeat like idiot)

2) what you say is totally banal amd lame (staing obviously non true)

you may repeat it ilke our well know idiot dik but it will make you will just be treaten as annoying spammer nothing more

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#148981

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 16:15 +0100
Message-ID<qvfd6j$ase$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#148980
> 1) you postulate things which you dont prove (yust repeat like idiot)

I've shown examples that have a) short code and b) high perfromance.
You didn't give comparable code in C.

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#148983

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 08:11 -0800
Message-ID<99429785-090a-411b-b9ab-b2daf6e5832f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#148981
W dniu niedziela, 12 stycznia 2020 16:15:40 UTC+1 użytkownik Bonita Montero napisał:
> > 1) you postulate things which you dont prove (yust repeat like idiot)
> 
> I've shown examples that have a) short code and b) high perfromance.
> You didn't give comparable code in C.

what code?

youre etreme idiot you say that some untypical quicksort cases whiose nobody needs are that what makes c bloated? you live in world of stupidity and try to enforce it on healthy people just like dik

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#148986

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 08:19 -0800
Message-ID<8bd3f082-5c06-40c5-9f7e-b457daaf0cc6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#148983
W dniu niedziela, 12 stycznia 2020 17:12:06 UTC+1 użytkownik fir napisał:
> W dniu niedziela, 12 stycznia 2020 16:15:40 UTC+1 użytkownik Bonita Montero napisał:
> > > 1) you postulate things which you dont prove (yust repeat like idiot)
> > 
> > I've shown examples that have a) short code and b) high perfromance.
> > You didn't give comparable code in C.
> 
> what code?
> 
> youre etreme idiot you say that some untypical quicksort cases whiose nobody needs are that what makes c bloated? you live in world of stupidity and try to enforce it on healthy people just like dik

note if i would like to have quicksort i can get typical fast ones (for chunks ints, floats doubles etc) in my dlls, 

if i would have some inline i can write it and belive me i strongly prefer it over crap based on templates (and you will get 20 or 30 lines on each making 200 lines of crafted code, its not bloat)

getting down to such arguments and dumbness is a cost which is hurting when i sporadically with such shamefull lewel of 'coders 'lik you

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#148990

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 17:42 +0100
Message-ID<qvfi8p$dj7$2@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#148986
> if i would have some inline i can write it and belive me i strongly prefer it over crap based on templates (and you will get 20 or 30 lines on each making 200 lines of crafted code, its not bloat)

This template-crap is specialized with one line of code and has optimal
performance. Depending on the type of generic algorithm / data-structure
you may spend days in C to archieve the same.

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#148988

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 17:40 +0100
Message-ID<qvfi5n$dj7$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#148983
>> I've shown examples that have a) short code and b) high perfromance.
>> You didn't give comparable code in C.

> what code?

The code with unordered_map.
Show me the same code specialized to a certain type
in C including the hand-written specialization:
map<string, string> mss;
mss.emplace( "hello", "test" );
mss.emplace( "world", "test2" );

> youre etreme idiot you say that some untypical quicksort cases whiose nobody needs are that what makes c bloated?

quicksort is just an example for any generic algorithm.
The STL is not as rarely needed as qicksort.

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#148994

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 09:04 -0800
Message-ID<6ad77f57-6ae9-47db-ab03-6dff10d4f055@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#148988
W dniu niedziela, 12 stycznia 2020 17:40:31 UTC+1 użytkownik Bonita Montero napisał:
> >> I've shown examples that have a) short code and b) high perfromance.
> >> You didn't give comparable code in C.
> 
> > what code?
> 
> The code with unordered_map.
> Show me the same code specialized to a certain type
> in C including the hand-written specialization:
> map<string, string> mss;
> mss.emplace( "hello", "test" );
> mss.emplace( "world", "test2" );
> 

what the hell it has to c being bloated over c++

one to say as far as i remember if i used that kind of container i only used it for strings so i do not need to talk about any kind of crap design and inventing it for non existing uses

if i would need that would be soilid and concise c better than c++ generic trash
 

> > youre etreme idiot you say that some untypical quicksort cases whiose nobody needs are that what makes c bloated?
> 
> quicksort is just an example for any generic algorithm.
> The STL is not as rarely needed as qicksort.

i never needed it and find is as general disaster for noobs..

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#148995

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 18:05 +0100
Message-ID<qvfjl5$qgu$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#148994
>> The code with unordered_map.
>> Show me the same code specialized to a certain type
>> in C including the hand-written specialization:
>> map<string, string> mss;
>> mss.emplace( "hello", "test" );
>> mss.emplace( "world", "test2" );

> what the hell it has to c being bloated over c++

C would be bloated here because doing the same in C would be a lot of
work.

> one to say as far as i remember if i used that kind of container i only used it for strings so i do not need to talk about any kind of crap design and inventing it for non existing uses

You can specialize this container for everything.

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#148996

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 09:13 -0800
Message-ID<01910eee-bdd1-4c3d-a03c-0e0fd3c68a9c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#148994
W dniu niedziela, 12 stycznia 2020 18:04:21 UTC+1 użytkownik fir napisał:
> W dniu niedziela, 12 stycznia 2020 17:40:31 UTC+1 użytkownik Bonita Montero napisał:
> > >> I've shown examples that have a) short code and b) high perfromance.
> > >> You didn't give comparable code in C.
> > 
> > > what code?
> > 
> > The code with unordered_map.
> > Show me the same code specialized to a certain type
> > in C including the hand-written specialization:
> > map<string, string> mss;
> > mss.emplace( "hello", "test" );
> > mss.emplace( "world", "test2" );
> > 
> 
> what the hell it has to c being bloated over c++
> 
> one to say as far as i remember if i used that kind of container i only used it for strings so i do not need to talk about any kind of crap design and inventing it for non existing uses
> 
> if i would need that would be soilid and concise c better than c++ generic trash
>  
> 
> > > youre etreme idiot you say that some untypical quicksort cases whiose nobody needs are that what makes c bloated?
> > 
> > quicksort is just an example for any generic algorithm.
> > The STL is not as rarely needed as qicksort.
> 
> i never needed it and find is as general disaster for noobs..

as for now i think youre sto stupid that ypu compare crap c++ library to "no library" in c - and the fact thist you would need to write it and thus have in source you name a "bloat" 

its donkey heavy stupid level 

(possibly realizing that stupidity you try to turn it in extremally rare cases whan you would need to write N- specialized forms of some algorithms and
then you think that it owuld be evenetuallty slightly longer (though sadly not wuite existant in fact) that make this nloat that c has over c++)

this in turn is maybe even more stupid

(for 2 reasons - that case you wil need N specialised versions is really rare (i once needed a 3d resterization code that i wanted to test in 2 ersions one of float and one of double - this was relatively long and complex code but kopying files replacing floats to doubles in editor and mae some needed changes by hand was for sure far more sane than writng emplate trash) then i deleted doube version afair after testing

it has nothing to bloat and boilerplate

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#148997

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 18:16 +0100
Message-ID<qvfk99$p1g$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#148996
> as for now i think youre sto stupid that ypu compare crap c++ library to "no library" in c - and the fact thist you would need to write it and thus have in source you name a "bloat"

There's no library in C that can do what C++ can do here because
C hasn't neither comparable generic programming, nor exceptions.
C is a poor language for which you have to write an large amount
of boilerplate-code.

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#149000

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 09:25 -0800
Message-ID<15222e0f-3e79-437a-9b70-b95f0b6fa6cb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#148997
W dniu niedziela, 12 stycznia 2020 18:16:33 UTC+1 użytkownik Bonita Montero napisał:
> > as for now i think youre sto stupid that ypu compare crap c++ library to "no library" in c - and the fact thist you would need to write it and thus have in source you name a "bloat"
> 
> There's no library in C that can do what C++ can do here because
> C hasn't neither comparable generic programming, nor exceptions.
> C is a poor language for which you have to write an large amount
> of boilerplate-code.

maindblocked again, huh? maindblocked all the time

nice bead btw.. (i do not write bolerplate c so maybe turn your lies to another one )

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#149001

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 18:26 +0100
Message-ID<qvfkrr$njv$2@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#149000
>> There's no library in C that can do what C++ can do here because
>> C hasn't neither comparable generic programming, nor exceptions.
>> C is a poor language for which you have to write an large amount
>> of boilerplate-code.

> maindblocked again, huh? maindblocked all the time

You simply don't know C++.

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#148998

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 09:21 -0800
Message-ID<6db93a40-ce8c-4bb2-9214-56ededd6e0c4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#148996
W dniu niedziela, 12 stycznia 2020 18:14:02 UTC+1 użytkownik fir napisał:
> W dniu niedziela, 12 stycznia 2020 18:04:21 UTC+1 użytkownik fir napisał:
> > W dniu niedziela, 12 stycznia 2020 17:40:31 UTC+1 użytkownik Bonita Montero napisał:
> > > >> I've shown examples that have a) short code and b) high perfromance.
> > > >> You didn't give comparable code in C.
> > > 
> > > > what code?
> > > 
> > > The code with unordered_map.
> > > Show me the same code specialized to a certain type
> > > in C including the hand-written specialization:
> > > map<string, string> mss;
> > > mss.emplace( "hello", "test" );
> > > mss.emplace( "world", "test2" );
> > > 
> > 
> > what the hell it has to c being bloated over c++
> > 
> > one to say as far as i remember if i used that kind of container i only used it for strings so i do not need to talk about any kind of crap design and inventing it for non existing uses
> > 
> > if i would need that would be soilid and concise c better than c++ generic trash
> >  
> > 
> > > > youre etreme idiot you say that some untypical quicksort cases whiose nobody needs are that what makes c bloated?
> > > 
> > > quicksort is just an example for any generic algorithm.
> > > The STL is not as rarely needed as qicksort.
> > 
> > i never needed it and find is as general disaster for noobs..
> 
> as for now i think youre sto stupid that ypu compare crap c++ library to "no library" in c - and the fact thist you would need to write it and thus have in source you name a "bloat" 
> 
> its donkey heavy stupid level 
> 
> (possibly realizing that stupidity you try to turn it in extremally rare cases whan you would need to write N- specialized forms of some algorithms and
> then you think that it owuld be evenetuallty slightly longer (though sadly not wuite existant in fact) that make this nloat that c has over c++)
> 
> this in turn is maybe even more stupid
> 
> (for 2 reasons - that case you wil need N specialised versions is really rare (i once needed a 3d resterization code that i wanted to test in 2 ersions one of float and one of double - this was relatively long and complex code but kopying files replacing floats to doubles in editor and mae some needed changes by hand was for sure far more sane than writng emplate trash) then i deleted doube version afair after testing
> 
> it has nothing to bloat and boilerplate

second reason is that c hand crafted versions is better (its also extre,mally rare as i said) whteralmally rare is at least habong something that needs more than 2-3 versions, its liek min() max()
function i got some for ints i got some for floats/doubles thats all, the fact i dont have crap template for it dont makes its a bloat/boilerplate


this pseuddiscusion lowered mi iq -50 points (bit only temporerely as normally fortunately i do not talk with such iq down draging people)

im very sad for wasted afternoon byt maybe once a 10 years i need to remember how stupid people are - to use my taime better for next 10 years (i hope so)

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#148999

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 18:25 +0100
Message-ID<qvfkqi$njv$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#148998
> second reason is that c hand crafted versions is better ...

No.

> second reason is that c hand crafted versions is better (its also extre,mally rare as i said) whteralmally rare is at least habong something that needs more than 2-3 versions, its liek min() max()
> function i got some for ints i got some for floats/doubles thats all, the fact i dont have crap template for it dont makes its a bloat/boilerplate

Having multiple specialized Versions compiled for each datatype
gives maximum performance.

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#149002

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 09:31 -0800
Message-ID<c59d35e7-c041-4bec-a2d9-94ea7aee5074@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#148998
W dniu niedziela, 12 stycznia 2020 18:21:47 UTC+1 użytkownik fir napisał:
> 
> 
> this pseuddiscusion lowered mi iq -50 points (bit only temporerely as normally fortunately i do not talk with such iq down draging people)
> 
> im very sad for wasted afternoon byt maybe once a 10 years i need to remember how stupid people are - to use my taime better for next 10 years (i hope so)


this is called "being dragged in low iq swamp" btw


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#149003

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 18:33 +0100
Message-ID<qvfl8i$lvr$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#149002
Thanks, my IQ is 129 and yours must be about the room-temperature.

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#148974

FromBart <bc@freeuk.com>
Date2020-01-12 13:21 +0000
Message-ID<i3FSF.157309$GFe.112604@fx12.am4>
In reply to#148971
On 12/01/2020 12:49, Bonita Montero wrote:
>> besides where is the bloat? ...
> 
> The bloat is in C, where you have to write magnitudes
> more code for the  same effect.

And you had to write a bunch of incomprehensible code to implement 
n-based arrays, which in the end was a very poor solution, requiring a 
lot of effort by the compiler.

But function-based solutions in C don't have that overhead because they 
can be compiled separately. You can't do that with C++ templates.

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